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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1662784707; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=h5hqb9pgCQaUmjiD1pifXVSGwub4G5NhXerFjfytpk0=; b=ePDEBKAlFezO/+kXWuxR8Y5IsGLp0kjIBXDhhERN1BcOR2TFBvxgPjaNUv7IYjYql3BEqp 1w+TV/YQ5CK2Fe8ecOEDR+F5ygps7jgW7QsbHjTVMuUJ3lM2WFxKKrTVitdSfZ3Az1NOW5 3vvY5+H6nhx+FBV+u8Y6E4yIn/CV9a3x9X6Q9AIYGEHyZpuMfl8XEunt7cfnUocV+mUhAp gkCz4yk8Iawu+m3quMn1rbuoX0ZBhWQl+P57a5F7lWv9rQSV3uyxNbHvvm3BF9GWhLZylD dofCTV8ILs7BX7uLGwqTOyXinzWtba7fpfs/fEZSi055Q3Y+XLlBbNuxOztKLA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1662784707; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=spZ2ufzF4ciuBvlYcza1X+facdmBSvA6oMCaer2TowToJpckXhUDBVGuXzsuvvHilaB3n/ AHPnKF0aginXJHoR1pOSe8eU2damD3gQ+fmDhSStsKt9jJG82Vtcab3K7cCaiaNOTitz7g 7GI3+lDm+giYoz9IDNjTiMrnA58xCI8NaYcgFc5l6r7ct0/tAnwB9aV9mfJZxpVpgZCGGR e6BjCcNRIT1lQvwUU0GyYUViyQUvOxUFwiuBhPelmbPBajM9YhYnhaHmUVS9pjMwU5YTZA 6r2b+Vm5SdjuY82UiiWeJb1g0UI7fjw24toj323VPc2WOY2kuQWFzqdE5P2OoQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Lcjln4V9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.79 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Lcjln4V9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2E523328AE X-Spam-Score: -1.79 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: yxWOZGCJk+Bt Dominik Schrempf writes: > title = {{Introduction to Markov Chain Monte Carlo}}, > ... > Is rendered as > > Geyer, Charles J (2011). {Introduction to Markov Chain Monte Carlo}, CRC press. > > In particular, the curly braces are printed. Curly braces are often > used in bib files to indicate that the capitalization is to be > preserved. > > Do we want to change the default behavior of the basic processor so > that it correctly handles these cases? This makes sense. However, I see it as something to be done by bibtex.el; not by Org. Or we may need to write a small exporter for BibTeX fields specifically. So that http://www.bibtex.org/SpecialSymbols/ is obeyed. We may also handle upcasing the title words in such exporter. For now, I reached Emacs devs asking to provide the parsing within bibtex.el. See https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=57712 Lets see what they reply first. -- Ihor Radchenko, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/. Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode, or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92