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From: "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ivanov Dmitry <usr345@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: programming for org-mode
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:53:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwzkbeet.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12989.1279230047@alphaville.usa.hp.com> (Nick Dokos's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:40:47 -0400")

Hi Nick,

Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes:

> Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... 
>> If you are going to do any serious work with lisp, I would emphatically
>> recommend using paredit-mode, and becoming friends with the Sexp
>> movement functions
>> +--------------------------------------------+
>> | C-M-f | runs the command paredit-forward   |
>> |-------+------------------------------------|
>> | C-M-b | runs the command paredit-backward  |
>> |-------+------------------------------------|
>> | C-M-u | runs the command backward-up-list  |
>> |-------+------------------------------------|
>> | C-M-k | runs the command kill-sexp         |
>> |-------+------------------------------------|
>> | C-y   | runs the command yank              |
>> +--------------------------------------------+
>> 
>> They allow you to manipulate lisp code on the level of logical
>> expressions, the utility of which can not be over stated.
>> 
>
> I presume that paredit is useful because it's a minor mode, so you can
> enable it on an org-mode buffer (e.g. using babel).

No, even for emacs-lisp code blocks I use C-c ' to edit the code in
emacs-lisp mode.  I do have "[" and "]" globally bound to
`insert-parenthesis' and `move-past-close-and-reindent' respectively,
but that's probably a little too radical for most users.

I only enable paredit minor-mode in lispy modes.

> But if you are editing a .el file, then emacs-lisp mode provides all
> these facilities (C-M-f -> forward-sexp, etc.) and you don't need
> paredit.  Do I have that right?
>

Not quite,

Paredit has a number of nice features aside from sexp movement,
including /electric/ insertion of both open and close parenthesis,
brackets and quotation's which greatly increase the speed with which one
can write lisp code -- all the while ensuring that the code in the
buffer is /valid/ in terms of balanced parenthesis.

Cheers -- Eric

>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
> PS. The ultimate *reference* for emacs lisp is the Emacs Lisp Reference
> manual
>
>         http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/index.html
>
> At some point in one's emacs-lisp programming life, it will be necessary
> to refer to it - but it is very much a reference manual, not a tutorial.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-15 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-15  4:52 Ivanov Dmitry
2010-07-15 17:26 ` Eric Schulte
2010-07-15 20:15   ` David Maus
2010-07-15 20:21     ` David Maus
2010-07-15 21:40   ` Nick Dokos
2010-07-15 21:53     ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2010-07-15 22:17       ` Nick Dokos
2010-08-05 12:33   ` Re[2]: " Ivanov Dmitry
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTi=wrOCCrZxRZTGgvNKGjy2jmnogiA91bYnHAExV@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-06  7:33       ` Re[4]: " Ivanov Dmitry
2010-08-07 13:12     ` Re[2]: " David Maus
2010-08-07 15:29       ` Re[4]: " Ivanov Dmitry
2010-08-08  6:43         ` David Maus
2010-08-08 15:49           ` Re[6]: " Ivanov Dmitry
2010-08-09 19:16             ` David Maus

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