From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: Citation syntax: a revised proposal Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:40:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87fva58x2k.fsf@gmx.us> References: <87k2zjnc0e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87zj8fjdnv.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <873867m4kg.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87fva7jaly.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87zj8fc7w5.fsf@gmail.com> <87bnkvj85w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87wq3jc6dc.fsf@gmail.com> <877fvjj5kx.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <873865rdwm.fsf@berkeley.edu> <874mqliwg5.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87vbj18zw7.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNRWj-0001nF-5P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:40:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNRWf-0006w4-Bp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:40:17 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YNRWf-0006vv-4W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:40:13 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YNRWc-00058G-UP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:40:11 +0100 Received: from tsn109-201-154-185.dyn.nltelcom.net ([109.201.154.185]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:40:10 +0100 Received: from rasmus by tsn109-201-154-185.dyn.nltelcom.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:40:10 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: >> Biblatex is the gold standard. Maybe not in input-aesthetics..., but in >> terms of amenability, usability and output it surely is. (No, I have >> nothing to back this up). > > Compare the bibtex style, chicago.bst, with biblatex-chicago and note > how much more closely the biblatex version approximates the Chicago > Manual of Style. Before biblatex-chicago, I used to generate my own bst files with custom-bib. It was awful 'cause I would often answer questions wrong and would have to start over... > Also, biber is required for some biblatex features that bibtex doesn't > support. I haven't followed this development and am not sure what they > are, though. My understanding is that a major limitation of bibtex was that it didn't handle sorting of anything more complex than [a-zA-Z]. Bibtex8 extended this, but you still needed special support, see e.g. dk-bib on CTAN. Lars Madsen, of "Avoid eqnarray!"-fame (and much else in the TeX-verse), has an excellent intro in Danish. If my memory serves me correctly, earlier β-versions had instructions on how to do hacks to get better support when writing in Danish. —Rasmus -- Lasciate ogni speranza, voi che leggete questo.