From: Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:06:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fue1ej2n.fsf@yandex.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vamy0xjd.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:17:26 +0200")
Dear Nicolas,
I apologise for not understanding fully what you propose. I use org-mode
extensively, so any possibility of "change" tends to make me anxious.
Nicolas> Besides, columns cookies may work for you, but, as pointed
Nicolas> out, they are limited:
Nicolas> - Setting a width cookie also changes how the table is
Nicolas> exported (e.g., in ASCII export). However I may want to
Nicolas> narrow view of the table and, yet, export it to its full
Nicolas> extent.
Nicolas> - Setting a width cookie hard-codes how the column is
Nicolas> displayed. I may want to completely hide the column
Nicolas> temporarily, or expand it without affecting other narrowed
Nicolas> columns.
Nicolas> - Setting a width cookie segregates other columns. I can
Nicolas> only narrow columns with a width cookie. I may want to
Nicolas> temporarily hide another column without modifying my table.
I appreciate these points and indeed I regularly face export
problems. However, I just manually remove the cookies if they become an
issue. I accept other users may wish to work differently.
Nicolas> The real question for now is: how can we alter columns
Nicolas> display when at a table? E.g.,
Nicolas> - Do we need two commands, one for narrowing (to a given
Nicolas> number of characters) and one for shrinking (to one
Nicolas> character only)? Or would a command toggling between the
Nicolas> three states be sufficient?
Nicolas> - Is there some rule of thumb to narrow a column when no
Nicolas> width cookie is supplied or should we consider this kind of
Nicolas> columns has only two states, shrunk and expanded?
In my own case, the values of the column widths are not static but vary
from file-to-file. I don't have any rule of thumb, except, from my own
experience, I have never found the need to shrink any column to a single
character.
Nicolas> - Supposing we focus on a single, cycling, command, how
Nicolas> should it behave when called on multiple columns at a time?
Nicolas> Since some columns may have two states and other ones
Nicolas> three, it may end up being confusing for the user.
To me, that's the beauty of my present arrangement: it's simple,
intuitive and controllable. I am sure that my requirements are more
modest than those of other users.
Nicolas> Food for thought.
Indeed.
Best wishes,
Colin.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-12 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-10 12:12 [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-10 14:36 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-10 14:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-10 19:47 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-10 20:14 ` Nick Dokos
2017-07-10 20:59 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 6:27 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-11 7:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 8:35 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-11 11:41 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 12:03 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-11 12:24 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 17:56 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-11 19:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 19:23 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-12 7:22 ` Colin Baxter
2017-07-12 10:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-12 16:06 ` Colin Baxter [this message]
2017-07-12 19:14 ` Rick Frankel
2017-07-27 11:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
[not found] ` <158a779e34564ef98104c442384dadd3@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-07-12 16:10 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-07-16 10:54 ` B.V. Raghav
2017-07-27 10:14 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-27 10:11 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-31 22:29 ` Adam Porter
2017-08-05 22:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
[not found] ` <e59b6e794bff46c29380611204d00402@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2017-07-27 10:49 ` Eric S Fraga
2017-08-05 22:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-08-19 16:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-09-06 13:29 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 20:21 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-11 9:32 ` Uwe Brauer
2017-07-10 22:11 ` Kaushal Modi
2017-07-11 6:16 ` Michael Brand
2017-07-11 11:18 ` Deleting org table columns during export (Was: [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically) Kaushal Modi
2017-07-11 16:43 ` Michael Brand
2017-07-11 11:47 ` [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically Nicolas Goaziou
2017-07-11 16:40 ` Michael Brand
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