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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Cc: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: minimal testing setup for pdf export?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:31:32 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftlii623.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.NEB.2.21.1908301706400.459@panix1.panix.com>


I think the main thing which needs to be in the PDF is structure
'tagging'. Unfortunately, making truly accessible PDFs is the one area
I've found where the 'TeX suite is weak. I was tracking some discussions
about this on  the various TeX and Latex lists and it seems that to add
the necessary information needed to create accessible PDFs requires a
major redesign of TeX internals.

It has been a while since I looked at this, but I do believe there are
some add-on latex packages which can help a bit, but creating PDFs which
meet minimal accessibility requirement tests is currently not possible.

IIRC the speech-disabling feature is not part of the PDF spec. This is
somethinhg added by Adobe (along with other DRM support). This is no
'switch' so to speak in plain PDF documents as the PDF spec predates
considerations like TTS or even accessibility.


Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:

> most of the books sold on google play books are speech-disabled by
> publishers.  The adobe accessibility site has speech-enabled
> accessibility examples.  I think it's a matter of a single control that
> is either enabled or disabled.  Oh, the IRS has speech-enabled pdf tax
> forms anyone can download.  I nearly forgot about that one.  The 1099R
> form is a short one so it ought to be pretty quick to find the setting
> in one of those forms.
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 16:07:49
>> From: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
>> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: [O] minimal testing setup for pdf export?
>>
>> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>>
>> > It would be helpful if when pdf get exported from orgmode they have
>> > speech enabled by default.
>> >
>>
>> Not sure that org mode can do anything about, since it's LaTeX that produces
>> the PDF. That said, I'm not sure what needs to be done: what's the difference
>> between a speech-enabled PDF and a non-speech-enabled one?
>>
>>


-- 
Tim Cross

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-30 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27  1:20 minimal testing setup for pdf export? Matt Price
2019-08-27  3:26 ` Ken Mankoff
2019-08-27  6:14 ` Robert Klein
2019-08-27 10:34   ` Matt Price
2019-08-27 11:55     ` Julius Dittmar
2019-08-27 12:26       ` John Kitchin
2019-08-27 12:57         ` Matt Price
2019-08-27 17:32           ` John Kitchin
2019-08-27 23:33             ` Matt Price
2019-08-28  8:29               ` Julius Dittmar
2019-08-29 15:27               ` John Hendy
2019-08-30 14:13                 ` Matt Price
2019-08-30 14:45                   ` John Hendy
2019-08-30 18:11                     ` Jude DaShiell
2019-08-30 20:07                       ` Nick Dokos
2019-08-30 21:10                         ` Jude DaShiell
2019-08-30 23:31                           ` Tim Cross [this message]
2019-08-30 23:59                             ` Jude DaShiell
2019-08-31  1:46                               ` Tim Cross

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