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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [feature request] A new cookie type [!] showing the last note taken
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:58:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ft84faen.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgc470lk.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I feel that my understand of "note" in context of org is different from
>> yours. Is there a formal definition of "note" in org?
>
> As I stated in my first post a few hours ago:
>
>    Notes are mostly free-form; there is no syntax describing them.
>
>> However, we can formalise the "last note taken" to "last note taken
>> using org-add-note".
>
> This is more realistic, but you are then binding the tool
> (`org-add-note') to the syntax ("[!]"), which is a step in the wrong
> direction. We must not assume Org mode is the only tool writing Org
> documents.
>
>> org-add-note is the only way I am aware about (except plain text,
>> indeed). That's why I wrote the function saving the last note taken
>> using org-add-note into SUMMARY. The property is only used here for
>> convenient retrieval, not because I implied showing a property value.
>
> I understand the property was used for convenience, but showing its
> value is the only problem your can really claim solving at the moment.
>
>> May I know what are the other ways to add note via interactive function
>> in Org?
>
> Capture is certainly one way. In fact, `org-add-note' could (should ?)
> be rewritten using Capture library.
>
> I wouldn't dismiss plain text insertion too easily, either. It also
> includes external tools. What happens if an external tool automatically
> insert notes?
>
> The feature you are requesting could make sense if notes had a clear
> syntax. This would bring some interesting features, too (e.g., being
> able to list all notes in an entry, accurately). But it would also raise
> new problems, as any syntax change (backward compatibility with old
> documents, external tools...). 

FWIW I'd be very happy to see a formalized note syntax. I make heavy use
of arbitrary notes and state-change notes -- what needs to be done NEXT,
how long has a todo been in WAIT state -- and would love to be able to
build more tools on top of that.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-30 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-29  6:40 Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-30  8:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-08-30 10:40   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-30 11:03     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-08-30 12:18       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-30 12:57         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-08-30 14:58           ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2020-08-31  2:26           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-31  8:42             ` Julius Müller
2020-08-31 11:55               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-31 14:58             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-02  2:02               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-03  9:16                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-05  5:52                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-09 14:00                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-10  9:24                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-13 13:09                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-09-14 19:49                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-09-05 22:14 ` Allen Li
2020-09-06  1:23   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-06 18:16     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-01-17 15:38 ` Christopher Miles
2021-01-18  2:07   ` Ihor Radchenko

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