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* Keys to Category Filter Agenda
@ 2022-12-09 16:17 Colin Baxter
  2022-12-10  9:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2022-12-09 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


In agenda, you can filter by category by pressing '<' when point on that
particular category. To remove filtering, press '<' again. All this is
explained in the org-mode info. However the initial agenda buffer,
viewed by 'C-c a', gives the keys '<' for filtering but '>' to remove
the restriction. This surely is wrong since '>' is the key to call the
org-agenda-date-prompt, or am I missing something very basic here?

Nest wishes,

Colin Baxter.



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* Re: Keys to Category Filter Agenda
  2022-12-09 16:17 Keys to Category Filter Agenda Colin Baxter
@ 2022-12-10  9:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-12-10 11:24   ` Colin Baxter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-12-10  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: m43cap; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

> In agenda, you can filter by category by pressing '<' when point on that
> particular category. To remove filtering, press '<' again. All this is
> explained in the org-mode info. However the initial agenda buffer,
> viewed by 'C-c a', gives the keys '<' for filtering but '>' to remove
> the restriction. This surely is wrong since '>' is the key to call the
> org-agenda-date-prompt, or am I missing something very basic here?

You are misunderstanding agenda buffer and the initial agenda dialog.
The former is where "<" acts as category filter. The dialog uses "<" to
set agenda restriction, as it is explained in the dialog message.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


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* Re: Keys to Category Filter Agenda
  2022-12-10  9:27 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-12-10 11:24   ` Colin Baxter
  2022-12-10 11:33     ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2022-12-10 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

>>>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

    > Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >> In agenda, you can filter by category by pressing '<' when point
    >> on that particular category. To remove filtering, press '<'
    >> again. All this is explained in the org-mode info. However the
    >> initial agenda buffer, viewed by 'C-c a', gives the keys '<' for
    >> filtering but '>' to remove the restriction. This surely is wrong
    >> since '>' is the key to call the org-agenda-date-prompt, or am I
    >> missing something very basic here?

    > You are misunderstanding agenda buffer and the initial agenda
    > dialog.  The former is where "<" acts as category filter. The
    > dialog uses "<" to set agenda restriction, as it is explained in
    > the dialog message.

Indeed. I understand that, but the question was about '>' not '<'. The
initial agenda buffer has

    < Buffer, subtree/region restriction
    > Remove restriction

If I remove the restriction with >, as suggested by the initial buffer,
I get the date prompt. I have to enter either '<' again or '|' to clear
the restrictions. This information is given only in org-mode info not in
the initial agenda buffer.

Best wishes,


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* Re: Keys to Category Filter Agenda
  2022-12-10 11:24   ` Colin Baxter
@ 2022-12-10 11:33     ` Ihor Radchenko
  2022-12-13 11:53       ` Colin Baxter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-12-10 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: m43cap; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

> Indeed. I understand that, but the question was about '>' not '<'. The
> initial agenda buffer has
>
>     < Buffer, subtree/region restriction
>     > Remove restriction
>
> If I remove the restriction with >, as suggested by the initial buffer,
> I get the date prompt. I have to enter either '<' again or '|' to clear
> the restrictions. This information is given only in org-mode info not in
> the initial agenda buffer.

Initial prompt buffer only describes bindings for that buffer.
They are totally different from agenda-mode buffer.
I don't see any issue.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


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* Re: Keys to Category Filter Agenda
  2022-12-10 11:33     ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-12-13 11:53       ` Colin Baxter
  2022-12-13 11:59         ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2022-12-13 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

>>>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

    > Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >> Indeed. I understand that, but the question was about '>' not
    >> '<'. The initial agenda buffer has
    >> 
    >> < Buffer, subtree/region restriction > Remove restriction
    >> 
    >> If I remove the restriction with >, as suggested by the initial
    >> buffer, I get the date prompt. I have to enter either '<' again
    >> or '|' to clear the restrictions. This information is given only
    >> in org-mode info not in the initial agenda buffer.

    > Initial prompt buffer only describes bindings for that buffer.
    > They are totally different from agenda-mode buffer.

That is not correct for the '<' key. You are told "Restriction is only
possible in Org buffers". In my opinion the distinction of the '<' key
should be more positively indicated. The wording and arrangement of the
prompt buffer is confusing at best. It is disheartening when the
difficulties experienced by a non-specialist seem to be dismissed
out-of-hand.

Best wishes,


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* Re: Keys to Category Filter Agenda
  2022-12-13 11:53       ` Colin Baxter
@ 2022-12-13 11:59         ` Ihor Radchenko
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-12-13 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: m43cap; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

>     > Initial prompt buffer only describes bindings for that buffer.
>     > They are totally different from agenda-mode buffer.
>
> That is not correct for the '<' key. You are told "Restriction is only
> possible in Org buffers". In my opinion the distinction of the '<' key
> should be more positively indicated. The wording and arrangement of the
> prompt buffer is confusing at best. It is disheartening when the
> difficulties experienced by a non-specialist seem to be dismissed
> out-of-hand.

I feel like we are misunderstanding each other here.

Could you please try to describe what you are confused about with more
examples or in other words?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>


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