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So aspects of autoload may be > considered as a part of brainstorm. > > Other ideas when built-in Org version may be loaded too early: > - restoring previous session. > - user configured Org agenda as startup buffer. > > Can it happen that already loaded version affects compilation of a new > version by package-install. Yes. It is what appears to be happening: https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10996 https://irreal.org/blog/?p=10999 -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at