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From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: I have terminated my assignment
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Carsten

> When this code first entered the Org-mode repository, it was not in
> contrib/.  The code entered in EXPERIMENTAL/.  Both files where marked
> "Copyright (C) 2011-2012 FSF" and "Copyright (C) 2010-2012 FSF" from
> the first moment they entered into the repository, in agreement with
> Jambunathan's standing assignment with the FSF at the time.
>
> http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/EXPERIMENTAL/org-e-html.el?id=93ec2c7a5034944f5f6c77be6f37c49b4a697b72
>
> http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/EXPERIMENTAL/org-e-odt.el?id=c2ea76e71034a161d875647b27cfbd72264b5d64
>
> The files moved to contrib/ only in April of 2012, in a period when
> the exporter structure was fleshed out and completed.  This move was
> clearly a staging event for a later move into core, rather than a
> change of copyright assignment.  While unassigned files are are only
> allowed in contrib/, the reverse is not true and never was.

What does FSF record indicate?  

Last I checked, it indicates that Emacs contains no such files and these
files are unknown to the Emacs product.  FSF email records also say that
I have out of my own initiative refused to assign *my* rights to them.

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I haven't authorized Bastien to move contrib/lisp changes to lisp/.  I
invite him to show a proof to that effect. 

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What you indicate is daily routine.  IMNSHO, they are good to know but
not substantial to resolve the dispute.  

It is common knowledge that unreleased source is *known* to show wrong
Copyright years prior to release.  Corporations securely back up - as in
put in a locker - only released tar balls.

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What matters is the product (product here is Emacs) and a public release
of product together with source tarball.

Org-8.0 is not released yet.  It is a work-in-progress and not known to
public at large.  Org-8.0 is not in Emacs, it is merely a staging ground
for Emacs and Emacs maintainers will do their own due diligence
*independent* of the due diligence done by Org maintainer.

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Thought experiment: 
    I steal my employer's code, slap my authorship and assign copyright to
    FSF.  Does that mean the code is assigned to FSF? No.

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Bottomline: 
    Intent to act is not the same as act itself.

Jambunathan K.