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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: "Gustav Wikström" <gustav@whil.se>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: attachment: link type export to HTML invalid attach dir
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 01:39:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eevyud9u.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR02MB3033945CC83E0A2DBE5CEABBDA360@HE1PR02MB3033.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com> ("Gustav Wikström"'s message of "Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:07:11 +0000")

Gustav Wikström <gustav@whil.se> writes:

> Hardcoding the translation of attachment-links into file-links in an
> in-between layer (ox.el - that is somewhat complicated as well) is not
> transparent and I think best to avoid. Even if an attachment link is
> /very/ similar to a file link it may be best still to treat them for
> what they are. If some export back-ends out in the wild don't work
> with attachment-links today then so be it. But let's at least make it
> easy to fix! So I'll try to remove the hard coding of org-attach
> invocation and instead make the attachment-path when parsed by
> org-element return a path that is an actual file-system path out of
> the box. I'll see what I figure out in terms of code I suppose...!
>
> What do you say?

It is true that Element library expands link abbreviations right before
parsing a link, and an attachment is similar to a local link
abbreviation. This is not great because some information is lost in the
process: interpreting the parse tree will not bring the abbreviation
back, only its expanded form. Actually, `org-link-expand-abbrev' is
called so that the parser knows what is the true type of the link, since
abbreviations could expand to anything. OTOH, attachments can only
expand to a "file" link, so the motivation for expansion doesn't hold.

Besides, there's no good reason to store redundant, or even remote,
information in the parse tree. The parser needs to be as low level as
possible.

Moreover, the issue encountered here is specific to export, so it makes
sense to solve at the export level, i.e., in "ox.el". This is not
trivial though, as it needs to be done very early, much link footnotes.
Indeed, since the meaning of the link is position dependent, including
parts of a document, or executing arbitrary code can mess it up. IOW
expansion should happen in `org-export--prepare-file-contents', i.e.,
within every included piece of text, and in `org-export-as', somewhere
after `org-export-expand-include-keyword' call, but before Babel code
execution.

HTH,

Regards,

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-17  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-21  7:53 FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options Gustav Wikström
2018-11-01  1:45 ` tumashu
2018-11-02 22:40   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-01 16:00 ` Marco Wahl
2018-11-02 23:07   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-03  3:37     ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-11-17 12:13       ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-18  0:42         ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-11-18  8:57           ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-20 14:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-11-24 13:56               ` Gustav Wikström
2018-12-14  2:16                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-05-26 22:24                   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-04 22:37 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-17 11:58   ` Gustav Wikström
     [not found]     ` <PR1PR02MB47322711B7F7B7142D156F54DADE0@PR1PR02MB4732.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
2018-11-19 23:52       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-25 21:13         ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-27  9:39           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-05-26 23:05             ` Gustav Wikström
2019-06-15 13:29               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-06-15 15:38                 ` Bastien
2019-06-30  6:03                 ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-06 21:46                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-07-07 18:38                     ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-08 10:47                       ` Marco Wahl
2019-07-09 10:16                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-07-27 14:56                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-07-28 20:39                         ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-28 23:20                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-01-04 12:21 ` FW: " Feng Shu
2019-05-26 23:15   ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-12  5:21 ` stardiviner
2019-12-12  6:12   ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-12  9:52     ` stardiviner
2019-12-12 19:42       ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-13 13:38         ` stardiviner
2019-12-13 21:37           ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-13 22:15             ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-15  4:14               ` stardiviner
2019-12-15  9:29               ` stardiviner
2019-12-15 10:06                 ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-15 14:26                   ` stardiviner
2019-12-15 20:41                     ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-16  3:38                       ` stardiviner
2019-12-16 11:21 ` stardiviner
2019-12-17  4:27   ` stardiviner
2020-01-13 12:24 ` attachment: link type export to HTML invalid attach dir stardiviner
2020-01-14  3:27   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-14  5:04     ` stardiviner
2020-01-14 20:58       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-15  5:53         ` stardiviner
2020-01-15 19:48           ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 11:06             ` stardiviner
2020-01-16 13:18             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-16 21:42               ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 23:07                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17  0:39                   ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-01-17 14:29                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17 18:36                       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18  1:13                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18 11:34                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-18 15:14                             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-19 21:12                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-19 23:29                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-20  1:25                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-25 11:34                                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-05 16:54                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-06 20:55                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-07 14:28                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-08 15:39                                             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-13 20:41                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 21:11                                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-13 21:37                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 22:07                                                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  0:16                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-14  7:23                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  2:42                                                       ` Kyle Meyer
2020-02-14  7:35                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  7:41                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14 11:06                                                       ` Bastien
2020-02-14 17:12                                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-14 20:33                                                           ` Bastien
2020-02-15 18:08                                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-15 23:04                                                               ` Kyle Meyer
2020-02-16  8:51                                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-16 23:59                                                                   ` Bastien
2020-02-17  9:37                                                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-17 10:25                                                                       ` Bastien
2020-02-16 23:58                                                               ` Bastien
2020-02-17 10:32                                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-17 10:53                                                                   ` Bastien
2020-02-20  9:20                                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-20 10:20                                                                 ` Bastien
2020-02-22 12:58                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-22 13:32                                                                     ` Bastien
2020-02-25 23:36                                                                       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-26 15:22                                                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-27 19:02                                                                           ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-28  0:37                                                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 21:57                                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14 10:02                                                 ` Bastien
2020-01-13 13:41 ` FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options stardiviner
2020-01-14 21:17   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-15  6:20     ` stardiviner
2020-01-15 22:42       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 11:15         ` stardiviner
2020-01-18 14:56           ` stardiviner
2020-01-18 15:30             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-19  4:28               ` stardiviner
2020-01-19  9:53                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17  7:39 ` Missing `org-attach-set-inherit' function stardiviner
2020-01-17 16:31   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18 14:54     ` stardiviner

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