From: Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Cc: Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: IM dev discussions?
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 18:53:32 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edvzen0a.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmfj7mu4.fsf@bzg.fr>
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Hi Bastien,
> I’m all for places where people can freely discuss anything related to
> Org. There are already many such places: #org-mode and #org-mode-fr
> on IRC, r/org-mode on reddit.com, stackoverflow.com, etc.
Yep, but I do think it’s good to have a few promoted places, ideally based on
FOSS services. Not to start another tangent, but this is one of the reasons why
I think discourse could be a good idea — as a FOSS replacement for reddit,
stackoverflow, etc.
> I don’t want development decisions to be taken in such places—that I
> think we all agree upon.
Sounds like we’re on the same page.
> Based on that, I don’t want a separated IRC channel or a Matrix room
> to be promoted (de facto, by its name) as the place for “contributing
> to Org’s development”: #org-dev or a dedicated Matrix room would sound
> like this to newcomers. #orgmode is the IM complement of the mailing
> list: a place where Orgers discuss. On top of that, the ML is the
> place where to suggest patches.
Mmm, it doesn’t have the same role or supplant the ML.
> I think I get your point about categorisation in general, but in this
> case, there is the risk of excluding a category of people (lurkers,
> occasional contributors, etc.) or more precisely: to incidently and
> inadvertently encourage them to self-exclude themselves.
I hear what you’re saying, I’m just not sure how much of an issue this actually
would be. My initial suspicion is with a this issue would be small to
non-existent.
>> With regards to accessibility, I think Matrix is also reaching a rather good
>> point.
>
> Is it possible to lurk in a Matrix room without any login?
With a matrix client you can peek in public rooms without joining them, and
<https://view.matrix.org/room/%21rUhEinythPhVTdddsb:matrix.org/> currently exists.
>> The current state of affairs includes an Emacs client, a host of
>> dedicated apps, in-browser web clients, and more. While the ability to peruse
>> archives has not yet been developed, it is also possible to copy a link to a
>> particular message, and so a conversation can be transferred from Matrix to the
>> ML with a link to the initial conversation, e.g.
>> <https://matrix.to/#/!rUhEinythPhVTdddsb:matrix.org/$1663983705132172ICPRd:matrix.org>
>
> It’s good to be able to connect to Matrix via Emacs: I will try this
> myself soon.
I haven’t tried this myself yet, but it sounds quite promising! I’d be
interested to hear how you find it.
All the best,
Timothy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-25 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-19 22:57 orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done David Ventimiglia via General discussions about Org-mode.
2022-09-19 22:59 ` David Ventimiglia via General discussions about Org-mode.
2022-09-20 1:32 ` Bastien
2022-09-20 3:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-20 5:36 ` Bastien
2022-09-20 5:41 ` Timothy
2022-09-20 7:50 ` Bastien
2022-09-20 9:22 ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-20 12:11 ` Russell Adams
2022-09-21 8:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-21 8:59 ` Russell Adams
2022-09-21 11:04 ` Russell Adams
2022-09-22 14:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-22 15:52 ` IM dev discussions? Bastien
2022-09-22 23:07 ` Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?) Tim Cross
2022-09-23 2:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23 2:53 ` Tim Cross
2022-09-23 6:47 ` Bastien
2022-09-23 2:35 ` IM dev discussions? Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23 6:39 ` Bastien
2022-09-23 10:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 11:03 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 11:18 ` Timothy
2022-09-26 5:31 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 4:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 5:57 ` Bastien
2022-09-27 9:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 21:37 ` Bastien
2022-09-29 3:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24 1:44 ` Tim Cross
2022-09-24 2:12 ` Timothy
2022-09-24 6:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 10:46 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 10:53 ` Timothy [this message]
2022-09-25 11:53 ` Fraga, Eric
2022-09-26 5:03 ` Bastien
2022-09-24 3:11 ` Mark Barton
2022-09-24 7:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24 13:26 ` Jean Louis
2022-09-25 10:33 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 10:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24 13:22 ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) Jean Louis
2022-09-25 3:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 4:21 ` Timothy
2022-09-25 13:37 ` Russell Adams
2022-09-26 4:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:29 ` IM dev discussions? Bastien
2022-09-27 9:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 19:35 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 16:23 ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) zimoun
2022-09-22 14:43 ` orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done Bastien
2022-09-23 2:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23 6:31 ` Bastien
2022-09-22 15:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-22 17:23 ` Bastien
2022-09-23 16:55 ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-23 16:59 ` Timothy
2022-09-24 3:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 10:31 ` Bastien
2022-09-24 7:00 ` Bastien
2022-09-24 7:04 ` Timothy
2022-09-25 10:30 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 16:19 ` Timothy
2022-09-26 5:31 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 15:26 ` Eduardo Mercovich
2022-09-27 21:56 ` Bastien
2022-09-24 6:48 ` Bastien
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2022-09-24 7:56 IM dev discussions? Payas Relekar
2022-09-26 6:34 Payas Relekar
2022-09-26 15:33 ` Hendursaga
2022-09-27 20:57 ` Bastien
2022-09-28 1:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-28 6:55 ` Bastien
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