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From: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] FAILED  test-ob-python/session-multiline
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 16:56:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edhvign0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edjn4lfr.fsf@localhost>

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

>> 1. In addition to printing `org-babel-python-eoe-indicator' after
>>    execution, we could also print out a "beginning of execution"
>>    indicator before execution, and then capture the output between the
>>    beginning and end indicators. This is how the async session
>>    execution works, and should avoid any possibility of capturing
>>    prompts.
>
> This idea looks interesting. Although I would not be so sure that it
> will fix things - I have learned that comint has many edge cases we may
> not easily anticipate.
>
> For example, see the discussion in
> https://yhetil.org/emacs-devel/87y1tgqhmc.fsf@localhost/

I think this strategy could work better in ob-python than ob-shell
because ob-python sends code to a temp file and executes the whole file
at once, which should prevent prompts arising between commands.

I will probably try this approach next, if the fix I just sent here
doesn't work out:

https://list.orgmode.org/87h6mrihfg.fsf@gmail.com/

>>    Alternatively, we could add an argument to
>>    `python-shell-send-string-no-output' to avoid suppressing output,
>>    submit it upstream to python.el, and then backport to Org to
>>    support older emacs versions.
>
> If we can (eventually) remove some custom code from Org and move it to
> Emacs, it will be the best for working towards RMS request
> https://orgmode.org/list/E1kIPh1-0001Lu-Rg@fencepost.gnu.org

I started down this path here:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2023-10/msg00004.html

But I haven't followed up because I started to have some doubts. In
particular, `python-shell-send-string-no-output' will terminate once it
detects a prompt, so if some output looks like it ends in a prompt then
it will terminate prematurely. Whereas in our current indicator-based
approach, the user accidentally emitting
`org-babel-python-eoe-indicator' is unlikely.

Another approach I have considered is to redirect sys.stdout from within
Python. In particular, set it to a custom class inheriting from IOBase
during the block's execution, that both prints and saves the output. I
think this approach could ultimately be more robust, and without needing
to print an ugly indicator token, but it could be complicated to do it
right.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-15 23:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-26 12:45 [BUG] FAILED test-ob-python/session-multiline Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 15:47 ` Jack Kamm
2023-08-26 16:31   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-27 17:55     ` Jack Kamm
2023-08-28  8:31       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-15 23:56         ` Jack Kamm [this message]
2023-10-16  8:09           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-15 23:39 ` Jack Kamm
2023-10-16  7:55   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-04-02 18:27     ` Ihor Radchenko

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