* mailing list search given problems with gmane?
@ 2016-09-05 15:50 Eric S Fraga
2016-09-06 1:48 ` Grant Rettke
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-09-05 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Org mode mailing list
Dear all,
do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
current problems with gmane?
Thanks,
eric
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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-05 15:50 mailing list search given problems with gmane? Eric S Fraga
@ 2016-09-06 1:48 ` Grant Rettke
2016-09-06 15:39 ` Change Org homepage ML search to GNU (was: mailing list search given problems with gmane?) Karl Voit
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2016-09-06 11:24 ` Charles Millar
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From: Grant Rettke @ 2016-09-06 1:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Org mode mailing list
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
> current problems with gmane?
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
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@ 2016-09-06 6:29 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-09-06 11:07 ` Charles Millar
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-09-06 6:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Grant Rettke; +Cc: Emacs Org mode mailing list
On Tuesday, 6 Sep 2016 at 01:48, Grant Rettke wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
>> current problems with gmane?
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/
Thanks!
I would be lost without access to the mailing list.
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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-06 6:29 ` mailing list search given problems with gmane? Eric S Fraga
@ 2016-09-06 11:07 ` Charles Millar
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From: Charles Millar @ 2016-09-06 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 09/06/2016 02:29 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Tuesday, 6 Sep 2016 at 01:48, Grant Rettke wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
>>> current problems with gmane?
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/
> Thanks!
> I would be lost without access to the mailing list.
The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has happened!
Charlie Millar
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-05 15:50 mailing list search given problems with gmane? Eric S Fraga
2016-09-06 1:48 ` Grant Rettke
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@ 2016-09-06 11:24 ` Charles Millar
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From: Charles Millar @ 2016-09-06 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 09/05/2016 11:50 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
> current problems with gmane?
>
>
I have been using MailArchive. A few weeks ago. Lars Magne mentioned
this as an alternative.
Also, I have added the newsgroup in my Thunderbir. However, I have not
downloaded the entire 100,000+ messages (only about 1K). Maybe
downloading headers only and searching through those would help?
gnus is having problems when I attempt to download the
subscribed/unsubscribed lists.
Charlie Millar
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@ 2016-09-06 13:24 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-09-07 21:03 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-09-06 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles Millar; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Tuesday, 6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:
> The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
> two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
> happened!
Are you sure it's been broken that long? I don't use it often but I
thought I used it more recently than that. Oh well, doesn't matter;
just curious. The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
alternatives.
I'll check out MailArchive, as you indicated in another post to this
list.
Thanks,
eric
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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476
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* Change Org homepage ML search to GNU (was: mailing list search given problems with gmane?)
2016-09-06 1:48 ` Grant Rettke
@ 2016-09-06 15:39 ` Karl Voit
2016-09-07 20:52 ` Change Org homepage ML search to GNU Nick Dokos
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From: Karl Voit @ 2016-09-06 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
>> current problems with gmane?
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/
Can somebody please update http://orgmode.org/community.html so that
the ML search is using the GNU server?
--
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* Re: Change Org homepage ML search to GNU
2016-09-06 15:39 ` Change Org homepage ML search to GNU (was: mailing list search given problems with gmane?) Karl Voit
@ 2016-09-07 20:52 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2016-09-07 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> * Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
>>> current problems with gmane?
>>
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/
>
> Can somebody please update http://orgmode.org/community.html so that
> the ML search is using the GNU server?
We might want to wait a few weeks: Gmane is being resurrected
https://lwn.net/Articles/699704/
And I'm not sure whether I'm doing something wrong but the Namazu search
on https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ is horrible.
--
Nick
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-06 13:24 ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2016-09-07 21:03 ` Nick Dokos
2016-09-07 22:32 ` Charles Millar
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2016-09-07 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
> On Tuesday, 6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:
>> The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
>> two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
>> happened!
>
> Are you sure it's been broken that long? I don't use it often but I
> thought I used it more recently than that. Oh well, doesn't matter;
> just curious. The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
> alternatives.
>
I'm not sure whether Charles is referring to Gmane search or the
lists.gnu.org search: I understood it to be the latter. If he indeed
means the latter, I can agree that it seems broken. It might just be
that the index is not being rebuilt regularly, or there might be some
deeper problem, but I have found it to be unusable.
Gmane (while it was still alive) broke a few times but it was always
repaired fairly quickly (I nagged Lars a couple of times about it, so
I may have indirectly contributed to him giving up in disgust ;-) ).
Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
more or less back to normal in fairly short order.
[1] see another post of mine in this thread - although bear in mind
that my posts seem to take 12 hours to appear on the list; no
idea why.
--
Nick
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-07 21:03 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2016-09-07 22:32 ` Charles Millar
2016-09-08 1:40 ` Grant Rettke
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From: Charles Millar @ 2016-09-07 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 09/07/2016 05:03 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
> Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> On Tuesday, 6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:
>>> The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
>>> two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
>>> happened!
>> Are you sure it's been broken that long? I don't use it often but I
>> thought I used it more recently than that. Oh well, doesn't matter;
>> just curious. The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
>> alternatives.
>>
> I'm not sure whether Charles is referring to Gmane search or the
> lists.gnu.org search: I understood it to be the latter. If he indeed
> means the latter, I can agree that it seems broken. It might just be
> that the index is not being rebuilt regularly, or there might be some
> deeper problem, but I have found it to be unusable.
Yes I did mean lists.gnu.org. Since April 2015, at least, I have
occasionally gone to the search engine for that list to see if it has
been repaired and I have had no luck. Either it has never been repaired
or I somehow mange to chose just the "right" time when it is down, again.
> Gmane (while it was still alive) broke a few times but it was always
> repaired fairly quickly (I nagged Lars a couple of times about it, so
> I may have indirectly contributed to him giving up in disgust ;-) ).
> Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
> more or less back to normal in fairly short order.
>
> [1] see another post of mine in this thread - although bear in mind
> that my posts seem to take 12 hours to appear on the list; no
> idea why.
Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was
not working and when. I know that it wasn't me.
As I recall Nicolas G. suggested that I contact whoever maintained the
list (he gave the address) and report this. I did, but no response.
Charlie Millar
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-07 22:32 ` Charles Millar
@ 2016-09-08 1:40 ` Grant Rettke
2016-09-08 4:16 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Grant Rettke @ 2016-09-08 1:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Charles Millar; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> wrote:
> Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
> working and when. I know that it wasn't me.
So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-08 1:40 ` Grant Rettke
@ 2016-09-08 4:16 ` Nick Dokos
2016-09-08 10:40 ` Charles Millar
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2016-09-08 4:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> writes:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
>> working and when. I know that it wasn't me.
>
> So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
> saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!
>
>
I don't know if Charles has tried other lists on lists.gnu.org - I have only
tried searching the org-mode list, so I can only confirm that that one seems
broken.
--
Nick
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@ 2016-09-08 7:02 ` Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2016-09-08 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nick Dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
On Wednesday, 7 Sep 2016 at 21:03, Nick Dokos wrote:
[...]
> Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
> more or less back to normal in fairly short order.
Yes, Lars posted on his blog about this. The site is back up for
reading but no search yet.
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: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476
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* Re: mailing list search given problems with gmane?
2016-09-08 4:16 ` Nick Dokos
@ 2016-09-08 10:40 ` Charles Millar
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From: Charles Millar @ 2016-09-08 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 09/08/2016 12:16 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:
> Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar <millarc@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
>>> working and when. I know that it wasn't me.
>> So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
>> saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!
>>
>>
> I don't know if Charles has tried other lists on lists.gnu.org - I have only
> tried searching the org-mode list, so I can only confirm that that one seems
> broken.
>
Just the org mode list. Apologize for the confusion!
Charlie
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