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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: "Gustav Wikström" <gustav@whil.se>,
	"Marco Wahl" <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:42:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0r3xllf.fsf@yantar92-laptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PR1PR02MB47326526844CA893B84BFA00DADE0@PR1PR02MB4732.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

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Hi Gustav,

> I'm not sure I follow your suggestion regarding changing the
> implementation. But anyhow I don't think the implementation is heavy
> and at risk of cumbersome code duplication. My opinion ofc 😊 

Sure. The code is not that complicated.

> I like the idea of a function that would symbolically links folders
> from "ID"-folder structure to a hierarchy-folder structure, based on
> the name and path of the org-file  and its headings containing the
> links. I probably wouldn't use it much myself though. Not until
> org-mode starts working better with multiple files, allowing us to
> more easily define "org-mode libraries". 

I am wondering what you mean by "org-mode libraries". Can you explain
further? 

Also, another thought about the attachment: links.
It would be useful to implement links to attachments, which are not in
the current org entry.
For example, something like "attachment:ORG-ID:file-name", where ORG-ID
refers to ID of an arbitrary org entry.

Best,
Ihor


Gustav Wikström <gustav@whil.se> writes:

> Hi Ihor,
>
> I'm not sure I follow your suggestion regarding changing the implementation. But anyhow I don't think the implementation is heavy and at risk of cumbersome code duplication. My opinion ofc 😊
>
> I like the idea of a function that would symbolically links folders from "ID"-folder structure to a hierarchy-folder structure, based on the name and path of the org-file  and its headings containing the links. I probably wouldn't use it much myself though. Not until org-mode starts working better with multiple files, allowing us to more easily define "org-mode libraries".
>
> /G 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
>> Sent: den 3 november 2018 04:38
>> To: Gustav Wikström <gustav@whil.se>; Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com>
>> Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
>> Subject: Re: [O] FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options
>> 
>> Hi Gustav,
>> 
>> Thanks for the patch!
>> I am a heavy user of org attachments, so it is pleasant that someone
>> spent a time to implement this useful feature into org.
>> 
>> A comment regarding the code.
>> Your new link types appears to reimplement some of the code for the
>> "file:" links.
>> Would it make more sense to implement the "attachment:" link type as
>> abbreviation?
>> I mean something like the code below:
>> 
>> ````
>> (defun yant/process-att-abbrev (arg)
>>   "Return `org-attach-dir' for the current entry."
>>   (s-concat (org-attach-dir 'CREATE) arg))
>> 
>> (add-to-list 'org-link-abbrev-alist (cons "att" "file:%(yant/process-att-abbrev)"))
>> 
>> (defun org-att-link-complete (&optional arg)
>>   "Completion function for att: link."
>>   (let* ((ref-dir (org-attach-dir 'CREATE))
>> 	 (filelink (let ((default-directory ref-dir))
>> 		     (org-file-complete-link)))
>> 	 (filepath (apply #'s-concat (cdr (s-split ":" filelink)))))
>>     (format "att:%s" filepath)))
>> 
>> (org-link-set-parameters "att"
>> 			 :complete #'org-att-link-complete)
>> ````
>> 
>> Also, is anyone interested in automatic placing of org attachments into
>> a folder structure, which mirrors the org path?
>> Something like in the following Stack Exchange question:
>> https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/26412/human-readable-directory-tree-with-org-
>> attach
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>> 
>> Gustav Wikström <gustav@whil.se> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi Marco,
>> >
>> > Nice to hear you like it! Yeah, I'm pretty happy with that functionality as well. Use it
>> all the time to quickly add links to attached files.
>> >
>> > One use case I have for this (as an example) is for projects and tasks. I have a
>> 'tasks.org' file with nodes for each of my tasks and each of my projects. Usually, if the
>> task is about some digital work, there are files involved with it. So I have a convention
>> to add folders next to the 'tasks.org' file with names like 'YYMM [task/project title]',
>> and attach the folder to each task/project node. C-c C-l attached RET then makes it super-
>> easy to refer to particular files within that folder, from within the node in the
>> 'tasks.org' file!
>> >
>> > Another use case is for my 'digital brain', where it's also fairly common for me to have
>> attachment folders where I want to refer to files within them. Images for example, that
>> then will be displayed in the org-mode file. Haven't settled on whether I should use auto-
>> managed ID's for these folders, or :ATTACH_DIR: properties though. Currently using a bit
>> of both...
>> >
>> > I'm not familiar with the 'next' branch and the plans for integrating it into 'master'.
>> But if 'master' is to offensive to merge into straight away, 'next' sounds like a good
>> option!
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> > Gustav
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: den 1 november 2018 17:01
>> > To: Gustav Wikström <gustav@whil.se>
>> > Subject: Re: FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options
>> >
>> > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to
>> gmane.emacs.orgmode as well.
>> >
>> > Hi Gustav,
>> >
>> > I played a bit with your proposition.  I like it; in particular the completion function
>> to insert links from the attachment directory with
>> >
>> >     C-c C-l attached RET
>> >
>> > It seems natural to me to have a more specific link type for attached files.
>> >
>> > In my opinion your patch should be applied to the 'next' branch.
>> >
>> >
>> > My 2ct,
>> >         Marco
>> >


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-18  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-21  7:53 FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options Gustav Wikström
2018-11-01  1:45 ` tumashu
2018-11-02 22:40   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-01 16:00 ` Marco Wahl
2018-11-02 23:07   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-03  3:37     ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-11-17 12:13       ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-18  0:42         ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2018-11-18  8:57           ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-20 14:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-11-24 13:56               ` Gustav Wikström
2018-12-14  2:16                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-05-26 22:24                   ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-04 22:37 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-17 11:58   ` Gustav Wikström
     [not found]     ` <PR1PR02MB47322711B7F7B7142D156F54DADE0@PR1PR02MB4732.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>
2018-11-19 23:52       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-25 21:13         ` Gustav Wikström
2018-11-27  9:39           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-05-26 23:05             ` Gustav Wikström
2019-06-15 13:29               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-06-15 15:38                 ` Bastien
2019-06-30  6:03                 ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-06 21:46                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-07-07 18:38                     ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-08 10:47                       ` Marco Wahl
2019-07-09 10:16                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-07-27 14:56                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-07-28 20:39                         ` Gustav Wikström
2019-07-28 23:20                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2019-01-04 12:21 ` FW: " Feng Shu
2019-05-26 23:15   ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-12  5:21 ` stardiviner
2019-12-12  6:12   ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-12  9:52     ` stardiviner
2019-12-12 19:42       ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-13 13:38         ` stardiviner
2019-12-13 21:37           ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-13 22:15             ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-15  4:14               ` stardiviner
2019-12-15  9:29               ` stardiviner
2019-12-15 10:06                 ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-15 14:26                   ` stardiviner
2019-12-15 20:41                     ` Gustav Wikström
2019-12-16  3:38                       ` stardiviner
2019-12-16 11:21 ` stardiviner
2019-12-17  4:27   ` stardiviner
2020-01-13 12:24 ` attachment: link type export to HTML invalid attach dir stardiviner
2020-01-14  3:27   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-14  5:04     ` stardiviner
2020-01-14 20:58       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-15  5:53         ` stardiviner
2020-01-15 19:48           ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 11:06             ` stardiviner
2020-01-16 13:18             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-16 21:42               ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 23:07                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17  0:39                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-17 14:29                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17 18:36                       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18  1:13                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18 11:34                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-18 15:14                             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-19 21:12                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-19 23:29                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-20  1:25                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-01-25 11:34                                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-05 16:54                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-06 20:55                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-07 14:28                                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-08 15:39                                             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-13 20:41                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 21:11                                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-13 21:37                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 22:07                                                     ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  0:16                                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-14  7:23                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  2:42                                                       ` Kyle Meyer
2020-02-14  7:35                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14  7:41                                                         ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14 11:06                                                       ` Bastien
2020-02-14 17:12                                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-14 20:33                                                           ` Bastien
2020-02-15 18:08                                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-15 23:04                                                               ` Kyle Meyer
2020-02-16  8:51                                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-16 23:59                                                                   ` Bastien
2020-02-17  9:37                                                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-17 10:25                                                                       ` Bastien
2020-02-16 23:58                                                               ` Bastien
2020-02-17 10:32                                                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-17 10:53                                                                   ` Bastien
2020-02-20  9:20                                                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-20 10:20                                                                 ` Bastien
2020-02-22 12:58                                                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-22 13:32                                                                     ` Bastien
2020-02-25 23:36                                                                       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-26 15:22                                                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-27 19:02                                                                           ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-28  0:37                                                                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-13 21:57                                                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-02-14 10:02                                                 ` Bastien
2020-01-13 13:41 ` FW: [RFC] Link-type for attachments, more attach options stardiviner
2020-01-14 21:17   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-15  6:20     ` stardiviner
2020-01-15 22:42       ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-16 11:15         ` stardiviner
2020-01-18 14:56           ` stardiviner
2020-01-18 15:30             ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-19  4:28               ` stardiviner
2020-01-19  9:53                 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-17  7:39 ` Missing `org-attach-set-inherit' function stardiviner
2020-01-17 16:31   ` Gustav Wikström
2020-01-18 14:54     ` stardiviner

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