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On Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 11:27, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but why is that necessary? It's highly likely that I am missing something (not a rare occurence ;-)) but, out of the box without explicitly specifying a follow function, the default behaviour is not well-defined? At least, C-c C-o doesn't work as I would expect. It seems a reasonable expectation to have a default that works out of the box? -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60, Org release_9.5-149-g781080 : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096