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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: On zero width spaces and Org syntax
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 05:29:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czmdgcp4.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+G3_PM4cxHa8bU+3QG541UiOauLNAQFZQu-+UKczx3itOeTHg@mail.gmail.com> (Tom Gillespie's message of "Fri, 3 Dec 2021 20:04:28 -0800")

Tom Gillespie writes:

> I don't mean to be dismissive of the suggestion, but a lot of
> time is spent on this list walking back ideas that have not
> had sufficient time put into understanding what the
> unintended consequences would be, so I wouldn't say
> that it is irresponsible, I would say instead that it lacks
> sufficient rigor and depth to be seriously considered. If you
> can add those to this proposal (e.g. in the form of a patch)
> then I suspect it would get a much warmer reception.

I am afraid that I am explaining myself wrong, and it is not my
intention that this matter becomes entangled to infinity.

I have no intention of proposing any patch on this. I'm not strongly
requesting this feature be included, and I am not interested in starting
a crusade to defend this (and as for lack of rigor and depth, well, it's your
subjective opinion). But it's more simple. Since a thread on these
questions came up recently, it occurred to me to suggest this idea as a
*possibility*, in case anyone could find it interesting and would like
to explore it. Nothing more. In fact, I don't think I was going to use
this probable feature much, if it was implemented, because for these
scenarios I prefer to use Org macros or other resources that I have
implemented for my workflow. But maybe users would prefer this to insert
a zero-whith space character (which is a tricky and quite ugly
workaround and should not be recommended). Or maybe not. I really don't
know. I don't know all Org users in the world, do you know them?

Anyway, I want to point out one thing, again. The scenarios and contexts
that are being described here are far from "very narrow use case". And I
don't think it's very appropriate to hide the lack of something with the
excuse that no one is going to need it. Intra-word emphasis is used (for
example) a lot in linguistics books and texts, grammars, etc. That you
*ignore* this fact does not mean that does not exist.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-04  5:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-03 12:48 On zero width spaces and Org syntax Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-03 19:03 ` Greg Minshall
2021-12-03 20:30   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-03 21:48 ` Tim Cross
2021-12-04  1:26   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-12-04  4:04     ` Tom Gillespie
2021-12-04  5:29       ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2021-12-04 15:26   ` Max Nikulin
2021-12-04 20:29     ` Tim Cross
2021-12-06 11:40   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-12-04  6:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-04  7:22   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-04 17:37     ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-12-06 16:01   ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-06 16:42     ` Greg Minshall

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