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From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: IM dev discussions?
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 07:03:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czbin2wk.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87edvzen0a.fsf@tec.tecosaur.net> (Timothy's message of "Sun, 25 Sep 2022 18:53:32 +0800")

Hi Timothy,

Timothy <orgmode@tec.tecosaur.net> writes:

> Yep, but I do think it’s good to have a few promoted places, ideally based on
> FOSS services. Not to start another tangent, but this is one of the reasons why
> I think discourse could be a good idea — as a FOSS replacement for reddit,
> stackoverflow, etc.

If someone wants to set up a Discourse instance and maintain it, of
course (s)he can.  The question is: should this become an *official*
place for Org discussions, maintained by Org maintainers?  I don't
think this is desirable, given the resources we have*.

It is sooooo easy to set up a Discourse instance and quite difficult
to maintain it in the long run -- also, how to explain to newcomers
when to send messages to Discourse and when to reach the list?  This
will probably end up as "a place for users" (Discourse) and "a place
for developers" (the ML), which I don't want.

* FWIW I would much prefer to have contributors commit to enhance
  Worg: it is a critical resource, seen by ~30K per month, and many
  pages are outdated.

>> I think I get your point about categorisation in general, but in this
>> case, there is the risk of excluding a category of people (lurkers,
>> occasional contributors, etc.) or more precisely: to incidently and
>> inadvertently encourage them to self-exclude themselves.
>
> I hear what you’re saying, I’m just not sure how much of an issue this actually
> would be. My initial suspicion is with a this issue would be small to
> non-existent.

Perhaps -- or perhaps not.  What Ihor says in another email is that
people who post on e.g. reddit don't want to bother hardcore devs on
this list.  I'm quite sure if we setup an official #org-dev channel,
people from #org-mode will shy away from #org-dev.

>> Is it possible to lurk in a Matrix room without any login?
>
> With a matrix client you can peek in public rooms without joining them, and
> <https://view.matrix.org/room/%21rUhEinythPhVTdddsb:matrix.org/> currently exists.

This link does not allow me to send an anonymous/pseudonymous message
to the Matrix room, right?  That's what I'm talking about, that IRC
permits.

All best,

-- 
 Bastien


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-19 22:57 orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done David Ventimiglia via General discussions about Org-mode.
2022-09-19 22:59 ` David Ventimiglia via General discussions about Org-mode.
2022-09-20  1:32   ` Bastien
2022-09-20  3:59     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-20  5:36       ` Bastien
2022-09-20  5:41         ` Timothy
2022-09-20  7:50           ` Bastien
2022-09-20  9:22             ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-20 12:11               ` Russell Adams
2022-09-21  8:05                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-21  8:59                   ` Russell Adams
2022-09-21 11:04                     ` Russell Adams
2022-09-22 14:13                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-22 15:52                         ` IM dev discussions? Bastien
2022-09-22 23:07                           ` Matrix (was Re: IM dev discussions?) Tim Cross
2022-09-23  2:38                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23  2:53                               ` Tim Cross
2022-09-23  6:47                             ` Bastien
2022-09-23  2:35                           ` IM dev discussions? Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23  6:39                             ` Bastien
2022-09-23 10:10                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 11:03                                 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 11:18                                   ` Timothy
2022-09-26  5:31                                     ` Bastien
2022-09-26  4:13                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26  5:57                                     ` Bastien
2022-09-27  9:50                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 21:37                                         ` Bastien
2022-09-29  3:39                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24  1:44                               ` Tim Cross
2022-09-24  2:12                                 ` Timothy
2022-09-24  6:56                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 10:46                                   ` Bastien
2022-09-25 10:53                                     ` Timothy
2022-09-25 11:53                                       ` Fraga, Eric
2022-09-26  5:03                                       ` Bastien [this message]
2022-09-24  3:11                                 ` Mark Barton
2022-09-24  7:02                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24 13:26                                 ` Jean Louis
2022-09-25 10:33                                 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 10:59                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-24 13:22                   ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) Jean Louis
2022-09-25  3:36                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25  4:21                       ` Timothy
2022-09-25 13:37                       ` Russell Adams
2022-09-26  4:46                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26  6:29                           ` IM dev discussions? Bastien
2022-09-27  9:51                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 19:35                               ` Bastien
2022-09-25 16:23                       ` IM dev discussions? (was: orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done) zimoun
2022-09-22 14:43           ` orgmode.org welcome page says to install via MELPA but as writing, this cannot be done Bastien
2022-09-23  2:40             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-23  6:31               ` Bastien
2022-09-22 15:07           ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-22 17:23             ` Bastien
2022-09-23 16:55               ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-23 16:59                 ` Timothy
2022-09-24  3:16                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 10:31                     ` Bastien
2022-09-24  7:00                   ` Bastien
2022-09-24  7:04                     ` Timothy
2022-09-25 10:30                       ` Bastien
2022-09-25 16:19                         ` Timothy
2022-09-26  5:31                           ` Bastien
2022-09-26 15:26                         ` Eduardo Mercovich
2022-09-27 21:56                           ` Bastien
2022-09-24  6:48                 ` Bastien
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-09-24  7:56 IM dev discussions? Payas Relekar
2022-09-26  6:34 Payas Relekar
2022-09-26 15:33 ` Hendursaga
2022-09-27 20:57 ` Bastien
2022-09-28  1:22   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-28  6:55     ` Bastien

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