From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: Orgalist notes Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 23:45:38 -0700 Message-ID: <87bmdv9awd.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <871ses9vg4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lgd0ezli.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54183) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEUWD-0003eB-He for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 02:48:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEUWA-0008HT-8j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 02:48:37 -0400 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=56601 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEUW9-0008Gt-Nq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 02:48:34 -0400 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fEUU0-0002Mg-Ls for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 08:46:20 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric S Fraga writes: > On Thursday, 3 May 2018 at 16:21, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> I'm very pleased that orgalist has become its own package! However I'm >> seeing a few of the same bugs that made the previous orgstruct-mode >> frustrating, though I'm hoping they will be easier to fix now. >> >> There's one right there! Spurious indentation of everything after >> the first line. >> >> Now I'm explicitly deleting indentation, and starting again at the left >> margin. Another bug seems to appear when making lists: automatic >> filling starts a new list item, rather than continuing the paragraph >> of the first item. >> >> - Here's an item, now I'll hit M-RET >> - Very nice >> - Now here's an item that is so long that eventually the auto-fill kicks >> - in and the line wraps. This line is now a new line item, rather than a >> - continuation of the previous list item. So is this line. > > Hi Eric, > > Interesting. I see the following: > > - here is an item > - and a second from M-RET > - and the third one which is long but will hopefully be auto-filled when > I type enough. And, lo and behold, it seems to work just fine. Huh! I tried the exact same typing as you've done above, and the third item wraps into a fourth item. I expect it will be some interaction with other minor modes. I've got: Abbrev Ace-Pinyin Ace-Pinyin-Global Async-Bytecomp-Package Auto-Composition Auto-Compression Auto-Encryption Auto-Fill Cl-Old-Struct-Compat Company Company-Flx Diff-Auto-Refine Dired-Async Display-Time Electric-Indent File-Name-Shadow Flyspell Font-Lock Global-Company Global-Eldoc Global-Font-Lock Global-Git-Commit Global-Visible-Mark Gnus-Message-Citation Helm Helm-Adaptive Line-Number Magit-Auto-Revert Menu-Bar Mml Mouse-Wheel Orgalist Projectile Pyim-Isearch Pyvenv Recentf Savehist Shell-Dirtrack Show-Paren Tooltip Url-Handler Visible-Mark It's bedtime now, but I will start again with "emacs -Q" in the morning. > I find that orgalist works much better than orgstruct-mode ever > did. The experience you are having is what I used to get with > orgstruct-mode which meant I usually did not enable it. orgalist is > enabled all the time and I have yet to see any strange behaviour [1]. > > Hope this helps, > > the other eric Good thing there's only two of us. > Footnotes: > [1] well, other than me sitting looking blankly at the screen while > waiting for an email to be sent because I typed C-c C-c and forgot > that I was sitting in a list when I did so... orgalist takes over > that binding when in a list and I keep forgetting! Yes! I tried to send an email not two minutes ago, and had the same experience. My guess is that a significant chunk of orgalist users are using it in message-mode, where this could create significant confusion, particularly since the orgalist command doesn't warn you that it tried (and failed) to do anything.