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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666696838; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=/xIMrL5jD3vuuAU0i7e5tvTsj18JRzbQRNn12E18pYc=; b=XRgu18vXE1vmBD+/+1aQkVbVHo5NosFLOC+PkFjHmU9F9bRTIA9UN2H4tnKQiE+FjfI2Jn jc/hGNkPPcoVxVLdpMA4ha/59bG6h8ZWEHzk8lDEoWXl0EkSzmXNozW+dYxT6D9H6ZiWSX Z6QP0wX20E42tbr9U8YexfWq9k9JOYjnXRWMchxDFrFsVSIFtUkCFtjoZxv+XB8rZk5eJD ZVaXZxJmwgYYmesSbqQpRC3nqXljImO3yXDNWQB7fNuYA9bGr75hK50us/s6r2RBpL4ICz MGzfDcEcE+slySXZSq2gE9Q1vBtHPpd3VDuWr6ghd6dKBayuXpogrVdbe+W2Yg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666696838; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=be+YL8b1fX2aZ0q4aggnAU3+iYylrdPSwwb5rFWuA1FZJ8J4fG9mkEASIaEitL57H9n0Eu qKc13NZXNbW2WeQXXRZ3PFrmdZH4xLbqi/CTJBBxSvuh7qtRdLxrbCBra/sT5HtHAvli/h WsLYKAFe6DWqPoYsJkLF79r38eT1b7PZ2Bd4iKfh76rGmLtb2qpVhXnN8R51gQigyLamW2 KgVHIritCwYTC10rLXs9OdKzErcyLF6Eo9kJMvyJC/fvSiDmIXJk1hEvI2T3Kt5Os9zg/M qwgJz9Axc/Pn8d6DdInaHgrtkT5Y5FCNGR+OjiTF+xpQW7t5pWiFX1yLhhwu8Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=GO93r036; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.41 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=GO93r036; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3005711483 X-Spam-Score: -3.41 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: mGvw9btW6S39 Jean Louis writes: >> If it is true, could you please provide links to legal basis on from >> GPL's and Swedish law's points of view? > > In my opinion the term "Org Mode" is collective trademark: > > Trademark FAQs | USPTO: > https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/trademark-faqs#type-browse-faqs_1934 > valid only for US jurisdiction. > > Trademarks need not be registered, especially when it is clear who was > first using it, there is no doubt that Org Mode is term used to > promote software and software is commercial subject. > > Those who started using first "Org Mode", like author or whoever is > assigned to it, are free to tell to the website, to stop using it, or > demand part of their profits in Sweden. If GPL is not violated I see no reason for current Org maintainers to bother. I'd better focus on improving Org rather than trying to engage into legal complexities. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at