From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: org-meta-return Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:54:26 +0000 Message-ID: <87a9qrkr4d.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <5387.1361401155@alphaville> <5951.1361405498@alphaville> <20130221004317.GA3911@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <6251.1361409050@alphaville> <87vc9fjvlb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <868v6bib56.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAO5T-0005mm-KY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:13:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAO5R-0006zQ-La for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:13:07 -0500 Received: from db3ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com ([213.199.154.141]:32717 helo=db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAO5R-0006yP-9A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:13:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <868v6bib56.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:10:13 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sebastien Vauban writes: > Eric, > [...] > Quite a bit OT, but is it true that, for example, to type `C-whatever', we > should use both hands, one for `C' and the other for `whatever'? Hi Seb, Yes, just as one should do with the shift key. However, the problem with C- is that the right control key is in random locations... I should add that I always remap the CAPS lock to be my left Control key. This whole topic may look like it is indeed OT (sorry!) but it is actually quite relevant for org in that many key sequences are C- and M- based, not to mention M-S-... Okay, maybe this is an emacs issue rather than just org alone. Luckily, for me, I have been able to remap the majority of the ones I use (not that many) to single key strokes in evil's [1] /normal/ state including < and > for org-metaleft and org-metaright. Prior to my using evil full time, I made extensive use of the speek keys in org. And, using evil mode allows me to use org more capably when on a TTY interface, e.g. via ssh from my phone where M- is impossible and even some S- keystrokes are inaccessible. Footnotes: [1] git://gitorious.org/evil/evil.git -- : Eric S Fraga, GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D : in Emacs 24.3.50.1 and Org release_7.9.3f-1199-g3a0e55