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From: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Riley <rileyrg@gmail.com>,
	emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr>
Subject: Re: Org now fontifies code blocks
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:54:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878w3dxzo0.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8tGnqzNazMcbwzLaOsKG1eU+uQqO+xRGoNbZC@mail.gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:22:40 +0200")

Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> "David O'Toole" <dto1138@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I agree Bastien :)
>>
>> I agree too, but note that what we are agreeing to is a conditional
>> statement...
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Bastien <bastien.guerry@wikimedia.fr> wrote:
>>>> If setting org-src-fontify-natively to `t' by default triggers a debate
>>>> on whether we need to set org-warn-when-editing-src-block-in-org-buffer
>>
>> I don't think it is clear that there is such a debate.
>>
>> But I do think we are gravitating towards turning it off, if it is
>> causing noticeable slowness on startup. So unless there are more voices
>> in favour of keeping it turned on for new users then I'll turn it off
>> later today.
>
> Just to add to this:  After trying it more, I see another reason why
> it would be good
> to have it turned off by default.  Fontification gives meaning to pieces
> of text, and that meaning is different in different major modes.  So
> this is watering
> down the meaning of org-mode syntax font locking.  So it is good for experts,
> but confusing for newbies.  So my vote goes to off.

OK, this is now off by default. And it's added to customize under
the "Org Appearance" and "Babel" groups.

(We badly need a customize group for these org-src but non-babel
variables[1]. That suggests to me subsuming the "Babel" group (Should be
"Org Babel" for consistency?) within a new group, perhaps "Org Code" or
"Org Src" or "Org Source Code" ?  Views?

>
> I *do* like the idea mentioned earlier to use a different background
> when fontification is turned on.  Just a slight grey instead of white,
> for example.  That would help distinguish things in export mode.

I haven't addressed this.

Dan

>
> - Carsten
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Footnotes:

[1] E.g. Org Src Lang Modes  is within Org Edit Structure which is
within Org Structure, which is deeply obscure!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-07 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-03 23:12 [PATCH] Mode-specific fontification of babel source blocks David O'Toole
2010-08-03 23:14 ` David O'Toole
2010-08-03 23:23   ` Erik Iverson
2010-08-04  2:55 ` Dan Davison
2010-08-04  5:55   ` David O'Toole
2010-08-09 21:35   ` Dan Davison
2010-09-02 15:51     ` Org now fontifies code blocks Dan Davison
2010-09-02 17:04       ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-02 19:06         ` Native TAB in code blocks [WAS Re: Org now fontifies code blocks] Dan Davison
2010-09-02 19:18           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-02 20:36             ` Native TAB in code blocks Dan Davison
2010-09-03  8:11               ` Julien Fantin
2010-09-02 20:26       ` Org now fontifies " Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-03 17:30       ` Eric S Fraga
2010-09-03 19:10         ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-06 16:49           ` David O'Toole
2010-09-07 13:23           ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 13:55             ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 16:05             ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-08 16:36               ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-09-08 17:41                 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-09 13:02                   ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-09-09 21:40                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-09 22:35                       ` Dan Davison
2010-09-09 23:03                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-10-28 11:10                           ` Dan Davison
2010-10-28 12:08                             ` Jules Bean
2010-10-28 12:47                               ` Jambunathan K
2010-10-28 13:35                                 ` Dan Davison
2010-10-28 16:24                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-06 16:59         ` Richard Riley
2010-09-06 17:53           ` David O'Toole
2010-09-06 18:30             ` Bastien
2010-09-06 18:52               ` David O'Toole
2010-09-06 18:59                 ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 13:43                 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 14:22                   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-07 14:33                     ` Bastien
2010-09-07 14:37                       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-07 14:41                       ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-07 16:20                         ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 15:03                       ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-07 16:54                     ` Dan Davison [this message]
2010-09-08 16:30                       ` Bastien
2010-09-08 18:35                         ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-08 18:42                           ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-08 19:17                             ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07 14:24                   ` Bastien
2010-09-07 14:33                   ` Tom Short
2010-09-07 14:47                     ` Richard Riley
2010-09-06 17:59           ` Erik Iverson
2010-09-06 18:23           ` Dan Davison
2010-09-06 18:49             ` Richard Riley
2010-09-07 13:33               ` Dan Davison
2010-09-07  7:24           ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-08-15  6:33 ` [PATCH] Mode-specific fontification of babel source blocks Dan Davison

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