From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: William Gardella Subject: Re: Continuation of main section text after subsections ? Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:34:29 -0400 Message-ID: <878vw0froq.fsf@lw-wireless-pittnet-40-144.wireless.pitt.edu> References: <20110327170251.58923564@hsdev.com> <81tyeotvzo.fsf@gmail.com> <20110327181155.054fecf2@hsdev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33837 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q3sun-0002Ks-Uz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:34:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3sum-0002gi-Jy for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:34:09 -0400 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:54081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3sum-0002gd-GY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:34:08 -0400 Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so1868059qwa.0 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:34:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110327181155.054fecf2@hsdev.com> (Marcel van der Boom's message of "Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:11:55 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcel van der Boom Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Marcel van der Boom writes: > On zo 27-mrt-2011 16:52 > Cian wrote: > >> You can't do that, as it would be akin to trying to have in a book >> >> Section 1 >> Stuff >> Section 1.1.1 >> More stuff >> >> Now this goes under Section 1 >> >> Not really an idiom that makes sense (I find its best to think of >> org-mode's headings as chapter headers > > Agreed, for paper books that would not make much sense (depending on > how you do it) and that fact kept me from asking the question for a > while. > For electronic texts however, especially in the drafting stage where > (sub-)sections get shuffled around, promoted, demoted, split etc. it > does make sense, to me at least. > > When writing I tend to think about org headings as 'handles' to a > logical block of information, including its child blocks. Apparently my > analogy clashes with what org-mode wants. I had my hopes on a > customization option. > > Is there a strong reason this could not work as an option in org-mode? > > marcel Marcel, I think this is not yet easily possible in org-mode due to the limitations of org's rather simple concept of markup. Because org tries to stay out of the way of the user's choice of indentation flow, for example, whitespace can't be used to indicate that your text has returned to the top level after entering a subheading. And unlike in, e.g., HTML or LaTeX, there's no way of "closing" the subheading environment explicitly. As Cian suggests, some alternatives you can use are to employ drawers or environments such as #+BEGIN_NOTE. I also use Org as a drafting tool, mostly for documents that will end up as papers or legal documents rendered with LaTeX. There are a few ambiguities in the markup that are hard to resolve without going the additional step of exporting to HTML or LaTeX and editing that output. You've just stumbled into one of them... -- William Gardella J.D. Candidate Class of 2011, University of Pittsburgh School of Law