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From: Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com>
To: Martyn Jago <martyn.jago@btinternet.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] Inconsistency in src block hiding
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 07:48:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878vl34l9w.fsf@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2d3af3nbh.fsf@btinternet.com

Martyn Jago <martyn.jago@btinternet.com> writes:

> Hi
>
> Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Well maybe we should roll back this change.
>>
>> Please don't.  _That_ would be a regression.
>>
>
> These changes /have/ caused a software regression, and should be
> reverted immediately, since:
>
> - they change current expected and implemented behavior to the cost of
>   users expectations and current use, with no prior discussion and
>   agreement on behavior changes 
>

I'm inclined to agree.  I've just reverted the removal of results
folding pending further discussion.  I apologize for the inconvenience.

>
> It has been proven that to achieve the required consistency set out by
> this thread /without/ breaking current expectations is less than
> straight-forward, and the changes should therefore be moved to
> EXPERIMENTAL - at least until the changes are proven not to break
> current expectations.
>
> Much of org-mode is currently inconsistent - and while it is highly
> desirable to improve on that situation, it should not become the major
> decision to change code at the cost of regression - org-mode is a very
> practical system used successfully by lots of (very appreciative)
> people, and while all users appreciate bug fixes / enhancements in the
> fast-moving repository that is org-mode (thanks Carsten), clear
> regression such as this should be avoided in master at all costs. 
>

My adviser is fond of saying something along the lines of "programming
languages should let you break the rules".  To the extent that Org-mode
is a document programming language its rules should be flexible as well.

Best,

>
> At least that is my understanding of the development model as
> established by Carsten.
>
> If this is /not/ the case, then many people are wasting their time
> writing regression tests IMHO.
>
> Best, Martyn
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-19 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-20 10:00 [BUG] Inconsistency in src block hiding Nicolas Goaziou
2011-11-20 15:53 ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-20 19:33   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-11-21 18:24     ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-22 16:15       ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-22 18:19       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-11-22 23:23         ` Eric Schulte
2011-11-23 15:25           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-11-28  8:09             ` Eric Schulte
2011-12-11 13:53               ` Bastien
2011-12-11 14:08                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-12-11 16:25                   ` Eric Schulte
2011-12-11 16:04                 ` Eric Schulte
2011-12-11 17:04                   ` Bastien
2012-01-17  2:26                   ` Bernt Hansen
2012-01-17 17:49                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-17 17:59                       ` Bernt Hansen
2012-01-18 10:45                         ` Leo Alekseyev
2012-01-18 16:02                           ` Rick Frankel
2012-01-18 16:19                             ` Eric Schulte
2012-01-18 17:36                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-19 12:10                                 ` Martyn Jago
2012-01-19 14:48                                   ` Eric Schulte [this message]
2012-01-19 15:22                                   ` Rick Frankel
2012-01-19 19:18                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-19 14:41                                 ` Eric Schulte
2012-01-19 19:26                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-24  3:41                                     ` Eric Schulte
2012-01-24  4:23                                       ` Leo Alekseyev
2012-01-24  4:44                                         ` Jambunathan K
2012-01-24  7:59                                       ` Andreas Leha
2012-01-24 20:39                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-28 16:08                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-01-25  0:00                         ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-25  2:23                           ` Bernt Hansen

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