From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: Quotes not being converted correctly for LaTeX export Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <878v5wzkcx.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20130308172751.GI13199@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <87k3phn6do.fsf@gmail.com> <20130308174649.GJ13199@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <87fw05n5de.fsf@gmail.com> <20130308180240.GK13199@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <877glhn4h3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2v9zr02.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <877glh1szy.fsf@gmail.com> <87sj4429ne.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UELJ1-0004VA-EE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:03:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UELIw-0000uv-Lt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:03:27 -0500 Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]:56390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UELIw-0000uq-Fd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:03:22 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k14so2043132wer.39 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:03:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sj4429ne.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Sat, 09 Mar 2013 10:40:53 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: Emacs Org mode , Jambunathan K Hello, Bastien writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> The only problem is when user doesn't load Babel at all, but still wants >> to use smart quotes. Is it meaningful? > > It is not meaningful but it is now the default, Actually, as Suvayu Ali suggested, it is meaningful only in the default case, which is no Babel package and English language. As soon as you tweak either LANGUAGE keyword or `org-export-default-language', you must use Babel. > this is what needs to be fixed. Either by not using smart-quotes by > default, or by letting the user what to do. I prefer the second > solution :) Smart-quotes works by heuristics. It will fail in some cases. That's why I think it shouldn't be on by default (even in latex back-end). Also, smart quotes can be turned on/off at will, so the user can decide what to do. It just a problem of providing sensible defaults. The old exporter provided smart quotes by default in LaTeX, as you know. I'm not sure it is a good move, but at least, it is consistent with the previous implementation. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou