From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: Citations, continued Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:27:07 -0800 Message-ID: <878ugfklk4.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <87vbjmn6wy.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87sieokx8e.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87iofkdr6o.fsf@pank.eu> <87oapblpvc.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87iofjffkk.fsf@gmx.us> <87fvandx2x.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33559) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIgKY-0003nb-MY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:28:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIgKS-00014R-GF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:28:02 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:53922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIgKS-00014E-6O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:27:56 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIgKQ-0002vM-VS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:27:55 +0100 Received: from c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([67.169.117.151]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:27:54 +0100 Received: from richard.lawrence by c-67-169-117-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:27:54 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Eric and all, Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 3 Feb 2015 at 11:35, Rasmus wrote: > I'm enjoying following this thread. I look forward to the community > converging on some solution. Me too! > For me, any solution will likely do just fine as my use of citations is > quite straightforward. I seldom, if ever, have pre or post text but I > do use a couple of alternative citation types (author, year; year only). Just to clarify: these are only `alternative' citation types if you're not using a citation style where they are the default types, like Chicago, right? I assume you are using a numeric style, like ACM? (This raises an interesting question, actually: what does the Pandoc syntax do with author suppression for numeric citation styles? Does [-@Smith99] still output the year, or does it produce the same numeric reference as [@Smith99]?) > I have only one suggestion to keep in mind: > >>>> What happens when a field is undefined? >>> >>> I guess I would suggest the same thing as happens in LaTeX: you get a >>> nice, bold "??" in the output where the missing data should be. >> >> Or better, throw an error. > > A *warning* would be better than an error, i.e. something that does > indicate a problem but that doesn't stop the export completing. LaTeX > does this (as noted above). Agreed. Something easily greppable, but not process-stopping. > Interestingly, I have just had a paper accepted for publication which > was written *entirely* in org. I used the [[cite:fraga-etal-2014]] > approach for handling citations. The paper made significant use of > babel to have everything in one place (data, code, results). Very > pleasing and painless experience. I did have to resort to LaTeX > specific commands a few times but mostly for the preamble (title, > authors, etc.). Cool! Best, Richard