From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: beamer_env tag issue with empty headlines Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:53:28 +0200 Message-ID: <878u8wtvfb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <871tezbqrb.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87r3mzaanp.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56842) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV2HA-0001CQ-3M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:51:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV2H9-0003hk-8k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::196]:41807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZV2H9-0003hJ-11 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:51:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Pip Cet's message of "Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:37:27 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Pip Cet Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Prateek Mehta Pip Cet writes: > Could you explain your reasoning for this in some more detail? I use > empty headlines + tags (properties, actually) in my "set properties in > headlines rather than special drawers" code, and I wouldn't want it to > break even more than it currently is because of this limitation. The reasoning is that it is a tricky situation, which may not be handled everywhere in code base, e.g., depending on the regexp used. As a consequence you're in /terra incognita/ anytime you use such constructs. > As you say, there are limitations in both cases, but do you actually > see headlines beginning with a colon being useful anywhere? FWIW, I don't even see empty headlines useful anywhere. You can, for example, use \nbsp{} or some such to hide a headline. But IMO, it looks weird in overview display and is totally uninformative. > I don't, but empty headlines are useful for setting tags (or, in my > case, properties) without making up a title, so in my humble opinion > it's a clear-cut case to support empty headlines + tags. Possible. The fact that we're having this discussion means we should probably choose one option, write it down in Org syntax, then deal with the bugs. Which option is open for debate. I am not married to any of them. Regards,