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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: exported contacts problem
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 11:28:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878ss9afc6.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnlmvssp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>


Think I agree. This is close to how I use org as well. For me, org pulls
it together - I have data/information in postgres, sqlite, maildirs,
filesystem, etc. Notes, todos, journal, bookmarks and documents are in
org. I use org as the way to assemble and prsent this information and
as an authoring tool, exporting to other formats when necessary. My
planning is done in org and I use org as a literate programming
envrionment for database work (I work as a DBA), elisp and scripting.

For sql it is really great as there are few good systems for working
with sql that also support version control. Using org and git, I can get
the best of both worlds.

When it comes to programming, I tend to use more 'native' environments,
especially when a REPL is involved.

My contact management requirements are small as it is just for personal
stuff. For work, I need to use the enterprise CRM because the
information is shared across the organisation and because of the complex
legislation regarding personal information management. 


Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Neil Jerram <neiljerram@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I've tried to work on contact conversion and synchronization in the past,
>> aiming to merge and unify contacts that I've built up in BBDB, Google
>> Contacts, email systems, pre-Android phones, etc.  The problematic aspect
>> was different systems using different field names and structures, e.g. one
>> with separate First Name and Last Name, and another with a combined Name
>> field; different approaches to breaking up addresses; additional arbitrary
>> notes fields; etc.
>>
>> With that in mind, I'm curious if the writers on this thread could comment
>> on:
>> 1. is this situation any better now?
>
> If by "this situation" you mean fragmentation of data formats and
> approaches, I don't think it's getting any better!
>
>> 2. if you favour using org-contacts or org-vcard, what do you see as the
>> benefit of Org as your master contact format, as opposed to say BBDB or
>> .vcf?
>
> I think something similar happens with Org as with happens with Emacs in
> general: it's such a nice environment to be working in that people want
> to move all their stuff into it. But there are some areas (contact
> management, email, large datasets) where Org just isn't going to work as
> well as a specialized tool.
>
> But Org can be an excellent *interface* to those tools, mostly through
> dynamic blocks. I've started using small sqlite databases to keep track
> of things, and dynamic blocks as sql composers/views, and it works
> great. It's very easy to play with the queries, and this is the first
> time I'm actually starting to feel comfortable with sql.
>
> I think in general Org is best used as a compositional tool for data
> drawn from elsewhere.
>
> Eric


-- 
Tim Cross

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-04  1:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-02 15:47 exported contacts problem Jude DaShiell
2019-08-02 16:00 ` Jean Louis
2019-08-02 16:02 ` Jean Louis
2019-08-02 16:06   ` Jude DaShiell
2019-08-02 21:09   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-02 21:34     ` Jean Louis
2019-08-03  0:26       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-03 10:33         ` Jean Louis
2019-08-03 15:38           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-03 16:32             ` Jean Louis
2019-08-03 17:48               ` Neil Jerram
2019-08-03 18:25                 ` Jean Louis
2019-08-03 21:32                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-03 22:12                   ` Jean Louis
2019-08-04  1:28                   ` Tim Cross [this message]
2019-08-13 22:24                   ` David Masterson
2019-08-14 20:38                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-08-16  0:07                       ` David Masterson
2019-08-03 10:48         ` Jean Louis
2019-08-02 22:19   ` John Kitchin
2019-08-02 20:33 ` Tim Cross
2019-08-02 20:57   ` Jude DaShiell
2019-08-02 21:25     ` Tim Cross
2019-08-02 21:39       ` Jean Louis
2019-08-02 22:07         ` Tim Cross
2019-08-03  8:25           ` Jean Louis
2019-08-02 21:00   ` Jean Louis

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