From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id AH8zLxMgqWGp/gAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 20:35:47 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 8CHXKhMgqWH3GgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 19:35:47 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83503160F9 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 20:35:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45426 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msrrt-0003ia-Sd for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:35:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msrrB-0003eM-2Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:35:01 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:41345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msrr8-0004CB-Nf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:35:00 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20410240108 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 20:34:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1638473696; bh=eTGc/zb98S1DoRrvRCFU4GaNcSRwBKNlLZ5w6Y4of5s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=WfGwTrnX8x/yby3zO2URrAlhW+axfkzFliIRNhHrEBuTZYIu9FP18x9TvXReNYWVa 050bN7G8aZJs7/I2nGnRfUlatwdmdu943UMIXo9DrYe/PRKMN5qnqFF86MdnVZEadz pOWTuKhrVZqradVQvMwXJDHQOBEGHQ4Ez5Mp4lizeIfbepV5A2YxaWeIxbOP4hiQej oqE0AMR/Wy/hqCOCr/XKlyMqMPUGCEnklSqFYVfQkwxbUndfsR6khhb/M0u/pRSf1G U7l2MYTPxCJWqDgftl+WIl8uDhYNWo5LRdSdD563pY0gPhpn11QOzfHTYp6XMIVzNv jL+TlWbZL63yw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4J4mPV5PLqz9rxK; Thu, 2 Dec 2021 20:34:54 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup References: <4897bc60-b74f-ccfd-e13e-9b89a1194fdf@mailbox.org> <87fsrbp673.fsf@gmail.com> <1ef0e093-c165-2a5f-954d-6a33b64c8ee9@mailbox.org> <87r1avgnpi.fsf@localhost> <878rx2bzhw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 19:34:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: <878rx2bzhw.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Thu, 02 Dec 2021 20:03:39 +0100") Message-ID: <878rx2kdgj.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Denis Maier , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko , Timothy Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638473747; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=6Hr1/YDiM4pb39+hxj++JWGoDELpDILg0oUSzzvxr3M=; b=qqrzf+Lfjka4xT/RwxBzBx1ozrJYyiDRdWMygCQFqz59eNz8P3PX8sffMAQravGtDuMISM aqYzqCWGhtMlAka0vs3u6M884DLlGb/t9E6HAlgYELo5wYY6h6iY7WL6j2NmGLTcRZoWR9 LR/XpY00anj9lhAA0BkjF0jzdYB5SEr2WB3wHdruIp2WJLcKR1xjIbIaTsEy1dDCu8IN4D Axgqno91rPqGvkYUzh/PZdFeZOkqBpUfEu2m5OoxxA5fcEAC3GCVC1ay78njEg8xjbbAAE ixFu98PsnPOxRg+oEpRxTy8Z7Pj+aVth1u6VKDNcbrMIoXQjuB5/E6KPY0Bi8A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638473747; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=di+7io9z8RNeDHmIllypbS+dd/hc7Umm0UgNPVRgzMfugYgG1jXa0IOPcRI/m4AOMP6ZKp ALc69QqwIF6aO3L3p/Y1BLmPxt6AhsA26rHncwkvaEdRqAT0mEphGhwJog2BcrU6Ox/KvD 1K2nv7un5mA0W4mkPEbx83pcc3wOwjfSH8drV0dNmTie4GVF/ZVaZYxZ1Y51+lrCu7C/B1 XBfPZ8aWm1urlvldNHejX/qq3yE2Y+D0JXIQmaBPnaDRaydUVHcVI9FfLmjMDvezLp+74b fQUA1HGk2L9CfxQE9+BV0n2nR7j6lMdRVyR6knnfOxqZ699oqPrS6ja+k2IL+A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=WfGwTrnX; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (strict)" header.from=posteo.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=WfGwTrnX; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (strict)" header.from=posteo.net (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 83503160F9 X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 9rVptlNtyhxC Hi Nicolas and all, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I find zero-with spaces solution much more elegant. It also doesn't > change current syntax, which is a big advantage. I agree that zero width spaces work fine as a solution, but I think they should not be understood as part of the syntax but as a punctual (temporal?) remedy to certain scenarios. As mentioned before, in LaTeX zero width spaces can produce unexpected effects and modify the final form of the text (at least in luatex). I also don't know if it would be useful to remove all zero width spaces in the export process, because in some cases the user may want to keep them, as I think Maxim commented in a previous message. As for the solution of using complementary marks ("//...//", etc.), I think it would undermine consistency, as those marks would only be to fix exceptions. It's a tricky subject... Best regards, Juan Manuel