From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sebastian Rose Subject: Re: Colors for pre elem. on orgmode.org Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:43:55 +0100 Message-ID: <877htq45bh.fsf@gmx.de> References: <873a4fvc59.fsf@gmx.de> <28BB9C80-9659-4551-AF90-F0F5D15906A2@gmail.com> <87hbsur4ow.fsf@gmx.de> <71454fac0911160517l3bf8031fn27a666e30c2623c9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NA7bg-0002Gy-SL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:51:24 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NA7bc-0002Dg-21 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:51:24 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47183 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NA7bb-0002DV-Rm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:51:19 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:59825) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NA7bb-0004O4-3T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:51:19 -0500 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Greg Newman Cc: Emacs-orgmode mailing list , Carsten Dominik Greg Newman writes: > On my calibrated monitor that's fine for readability > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wr= ote: My monitor is not calibrated, but I see all the 1's on http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/572427/display/3843090 so the contrast is good enough. I just installed lprof and tried to improve the calibration of my monitor (which I never had problems with, BTW). But I couldn't enter the monitor values for "Wei=C3=9Fpunkt" (`white point' ???) and "Grundfarben" (`basic colors' ??), because I did not know what to enter there. "Set Gamma and Black Point" seems not to work correct (according to photos I see on the net like the one mentioned above). When I load a photo for Scanner calibration, the image is distorted - so I don't really know why to trust that program =3D> uninstalled it again. There are other programs for calibration, but I don't have colorimeter at hand. And I don't know anyone who owns such a thing. I don't know many people, who use calibrated monitors by the way. Just a few people doing graphics - and even they don't own a colorimeter. It is a tiny little bit better with bigger fonts (in Opera I see heavier font - in FF the Courier font is very light - might be a bug), or. I think we should make it readable for everyone, right? And we should make as close to the optimum as possible. Here is what I see on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/44727594@N04/4109090241/in/set-721576228169077= 22/=20 I see this lack of contrast on different hardware, too: - Lenovo 500 + Ubuntu 9.04/Windows Vista Business, - IYAMA 4 years old attached to a P4 with Debian and NVIDIA driver > >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> > Hi Sebastian, >> > >> > can you point to a page where you think the stuff is badly readable? >> > >> > - Carsten >> >> Yes - sorry. >> >> >> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php#open-source-rewritt= en-urls >> >> >> >> Sebsatian >> >> >> >> > >> > On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> the colors on orgmode.org are made from an Emacs setup with a dark >> >> background. >> >> >> >> Because of the light background on the Web, code examples with syntax >> >> highlighting are hard to read. I even avoid #+BEGIN_SRC and use >> >> #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE instead. >> >> >> >> >> >> I played a little locally, and found, that the following simple change >> >> makes highlighted source code readable. Just put this in an exported >> >> HTML file, just before the `' tag and keep the original styles= in >> >> place, to see the results: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> How is the font-size of code on Windows and MAC (Safari)? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > >> > - Carsten >> > >> > Sebastian