From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Memnon Anon Subject: Re: how to change the headline starter * Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <877h7jq1pb.fsf@mean.albasani.net> References: <1240511841.2591431310664738370.JavaMail.root@zimbra29-e5.priv.proxad.net> <874o2optjt.fsf@praet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55108) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhgb8-0000ln-Kk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:30:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhgb4-0007kM-Mc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:30:22 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhgb4-0007kI-De for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:30:18 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qhgb3-0000RT-52 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:30:17 +0200 Received: from e178218013.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.218.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:30:17 +0200 Received: from gegendosenfleisch by e178218013.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:30:17 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi all, Pieter Praet writes: > On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:32:18 +0200 (CEST), harven@free.fr wrote: > Please don't *insult* our devs by calling this useless BS a "BUG", > let alone ask them to *waste* their precious time and skills on it. Mhh, I don't think it was in any way insulting to ask? OTOH, I also think Bastien was not rude :). Please keep also in mind that english is not everyones native language; this plus the fact that email as a written medium is sometimes hard(er) to interpret. You call this useless BS, not worth a bugreport. Well, it seems to me Harven is new to the list and to org. In debianstyle bug context, something like: ,---- | Severity: *Wishlist* | Subject: Please consider making '*' not hardcoded | | Hi, I use orgmode and I really like it; thanks! | However, using emacs for a while, I got used to the fact that | everything is configurable; orgmode itself with its hundreds of | variables to customize its behaviour is a prime example. | However, I tried to get accustomed to the stars as outline indicators, I | also tried the org-hide-leading-stars, but I can't get used to it. | I would really love to see this configurable: | Emacs, got unicode, lets make use of that! Imagine something like "•". | If emacs were the old ascii only text editor it used to be, I would not | even have considered it: You devs included picture/pdf/etc. display in | Buffers and spoiled me ;). | I really don't know how much work this would be, I just wanted to voice | my opinion on it (hence *wishlist*). | | Thanks | Memnon `---- would be acceptable I think. (Note: This is purely fictional, I really don't care, personally). It would then probably stay there, either with Bastien answering something like: ,---- | Hi, the "*" is hardcoded from the projects start and it would mean | significant work to change that. I *might* tackle this someday, but | don't hold your breath. `---- or he would close it and tag it "won't fix" with a similar reply. > If you manage to implement it yourself, you're welcome to send your > patch to the list. We might need it someday, when we -in a bout of > insanity- decide our target audience somehow includes twelve-year-olds. Belittleing a possible contribution before it was even started? That however is close to rude *imho*... Memnon P.S.: I deliberately waited a day to reply to this message. I really like this list and its well behaved attitude: This is a nice place. While I also stumbled at the "rude" and basically agree to your assessment, Pieter, I found your reply a tad too agressive for my taste. So I had to be the "advocatus diaboli" ;).