From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter?
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 20:12:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fplv591.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpxlwkbf.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com>
On 2015-07-27, at 20:02, Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
>
>> On 2015-07-27, at 14:39, Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marcin,
>>>
>>> On 27/07/15 14:10, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>>>> Assume that (for some reason) I want to write an Org-mode exporter which
>>>> won't be GPL'd. (Use-case: having written a few custom exporters, I'm
>>>> writing a tutorial on them, and I consider publishing a *tutorial* with
>>>> GPL'd code a Bad Thing™. (The idea of a programming tutorial is that
>>>> other people can or even should reuse the code in the tutorial, right?
>>>> And I see no reason to impose GPL on them.))
>>>
>>> As Oleh Krehel pointed out in a reply to another mail of yours, if your
>>> code links to org-mode code (or other GPL code) you cannot release it
>>> under a different license. I'm not sure about how linking is intended in
>>> Elisp sense of ('require)ing a library, but I believe it is analog to
>>> executable linking in machine code programs.
>>
>> I understand, and I thank you for your clarification. (Though I still
>> consider it plain ridiculous. And the fact that Oleh's own blog is
>> CC-BY-NC-SA licensed, and contains many fragments of Elisp code, both
>> small snippets and whole functions, thus rendering it illegal, is
>> sweet;-).)
>>
>
> Illegal? You are building strawmen.
>
>>> Therefore, the only extensions to org-mode that can exist (and be
>>> distributed, if you write code and keep it for yourself you are not
>>> affected by the licensing terms) must be GPL.
>>>
>>> Thus, it makes little sense to continue the discussion: even if you
>>> would release the code in your tutorial under a different license, it
>>> would be or no use for who will read it.
>>
>> I see. Funnily, I found a few Emacs blogs (also by renowned Emacs
>> hackers, like Oleh mentioned above) which clearly violate the rule that
>> any Elisp code should be GPL'd. So my intuition that nobody cares (at
>> least until explicitly asked) seems to be confirmed;-).
>>
>
> There is no such rule anywhere so this is another strawman. You can
> write an emacs module and use whatever license you want, put it up on
> the web (or not) and do anything you want with it. Just don't expect
Really? As Oleh wrote:
,----
| Like I said in an earlier message just a few minutes ago, you can do it,
| but you can't use org.el or Elisp at all, unless you implement your own
| Elisp engine that you call.
`----
AFAIU, he wrote about writing *any* Elisp.
> it to become part of emacs: it will have a separate life (and most
> probably a short one when you get bored with it). Ditto for your
> tutorial.
And thank you so much for your encouragement.
> Nick
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-27 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-27 12:10 How to make a non-GPL Org-mode exporter? Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 12:16 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 13:02 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-07-27 13:09 ` Greg Troxel
2015-07-27 13:13 ` Andreas Hilboll
2015-07-27 13:30 ` Rainer M Krug
2015-07-27 14:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 14:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-28 12:33 ` Paul Rudin
2015-07-27 12:39 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-27 16:59 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 18:02 ` Nick Dokos
2015-07-27 18:12 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-07-27 18:45 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2015-07-28 7:55 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-29 14:54 ` Aaron Ecay
2015-07-30 10:08 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 13:05 ` Greg Troxel
2015-07-27 14:32 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 13:58 ` Scott Randby
2015-07-27 16:32 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 15:13 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-27 16:01 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 16:12 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 17:12 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 17:13 ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-07-27 16:54 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-27 17:04 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-07-27 18:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-28 8:07 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-28 9:00 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-28 9:00 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-28 10:38 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-07-28 9:20 ` Andreas Hilboll
2015-07-28 9:30 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-28 10:14 ` Andreas Hilboll
2015-07-28 10:29 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-07-27 18:32 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-08-04 15:04 ` Phillip Lord
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