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From: Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: org-mode-email <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Merging tomorrow?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 21:31:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877di0zzs9.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zguxnlsl.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

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Hi Nicolas,

> At this point, I don’t have enough understanding of the problem to have
> an opinion. IIUC, your example does not even mention citations. How
> should it be used, what should be the output in LaTeX, and in UTF-8
> export? This is not clear to me.
>
> What can I say however is: if this feature implies to change, or extend,
> syntax, then it is /de facto/ a blocker for the merge, and needs to be
> sorted out.

This very much depends on how you view references vs citations. I personally
think of references as in-text citations (i.e. you’re citing other bits of the
very same document), but I doubt this is a common view (as suggested by other
replies).

To try to lay out what one may expect with references, I’d think some support in
Org (without org-ref et. al) would be good (at least for exporting) — but I’m
not sure what a good for would be.

I think it could be treated similarly to citations, given a variant syntax like
[<ref:#name>] or even just be added as a way of exporting links to named
figures/tables (i.e. ).

It’s a bit late to bring this up, but in case this should come under the
citation umbrella I thought I should.

Lastly, an example of what I’d expect when exporting to ascii (with three
example syntaxes):

┌────
│ #+name: sometab
│ #+caption: Some table
│ | a | b |
│ | c | d |
│ 
│ Hey, look at [[sometab]]. (or)
│ Hey, look at [cite:#sometab]. (or)
│ Hey, look at [ref:sometab].
└────

┌────
│ ━━━━━━
│  a  b 
│  c  d 
│ ━━━━━━
│ Table 1: Some table
│ 
│ Hey, look at Table 1.
└────

I hope this clears up what I was thinking.

All the best,
*Timothy*

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-08 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-08  0:17 [wip-cite-new] Merging tomorrow? Nicolas Goaziou
2021-07-08  0:29 ` William Denton
2021-07-08  2:12 ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-07-08  3:18   ` Matt Price
2021-07-08  8:12     ` Greg Minshall
2021-07-08 10:09     ` Timothy
2021-07-08  3:47 ` Timothy
2021-07-08  6:31   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-08  6:47     ` Joost Kremers
2021-07-08 10:17     ` Timothy
2021-07-08 10:26       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-07-08 11:15         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-08 11:33           ` John Kitchin
2021-07-08 13:31         ` Timothy [this message]
2021-07-08 14:27           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-08 21:31             ` William Denton
2021-07-09  7:58               ` Timothy
2021-07-09  8:06                 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-07-08 14:36           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-07-08 11:39   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-07-08  7:56 ` Jens Neuhalfen
2021-07-08 11:42 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-07-08 11:50   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-07-08 12:49     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-07-09 13:36 ` William Denton
2021-07-09 16:07   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-07-13 15:50 ` John Kitchin
2021-08-20 13:37 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-20 13:46   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-20 13:47     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-20 13:55       ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]       ` <87eeaonp4x.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>
2021-08-20 15:06         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-20 15:20           ` John Kitchin
2021-08-20 15:31             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-08-20 15:56       ` Eric S Fraga

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