From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id MIAXKdCkB2HKMAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 09:54:56 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id uIzIJNCkB2FIYAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 07:54:56 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1A2B1F691 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2021 09:54:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:55122 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mASmj-00020X-SF for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:54:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mASmH-0001zP-4A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:54:25 -0400 Received: from forward103p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.106]:43453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mASmE-0006JP-6u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 03:54:24 -0400 Received: from myt5-8352ee26fe0c.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt5-8352ee26fe0c.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c00:25a5:0:640:8352:ee26]) by forward103p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D3FCA18C30BF; Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:54:16 +0300 (MSK) Received: from myt3-07a4bd8655f2.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt3-07a4bd8655f2.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c12:693:0:640:7a4:bd86]) by myt5-8352ee26fe0c.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id amx0fDIo4x-sGFu8A0E; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 10:54:16 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1627890856; bh=bC95ds9pqm8bo1z1tlUF7N4pGb3hDiy0BwpAi18wvnw=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:References:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Cc; b=nnJE25UeI+KYW7CNroc3G0ZNNPiLZMCkXfn+XsKeick4O/wNYoYpMKniUZKz26QnR lW5j0H1/QvvFA06i62bLmsVw7NSr6vjUyugZOCUDdzErXs9xxj/1jRprM5umENJ/NL AgIvKZtMkJaxr5uhQOA6738s+1DJK++39/TeVhTg= Received: by myt3-07a4bd8655f2.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id WZ6iuHgKjX-sFqOATrx; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 10:54:16 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) From: Colin Baxter To: Timothy Subject: Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations References: <87czqw9aei.fsf@gmail.com> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 08:54:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czqw9aei.fsf@gmail.com> (Timothy's message of "Mon, 02 Aug 2021 04:29:09 +0800") Message-ID: <877dh4s2mx.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=77.88.28.106; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward103p.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: , org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1627890896; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=bC95ds9pqm8bo1z1tlUF7N4pGb3hDiy0BwpAi18wvnw=; b=c38kN+KM595Lv3iWrRvMG/wOmbbYq/3AIEJysKVkOR+7VKeUMah4tVqtH5F4TtgFODg1r4 nyAhzdWKYEDNtrRY7XQeeGbpEINLdQImSndcrURITjbdLtAx4U1AnDIwZDHqwlEuz6sfXh r6S1f7DtR6lUIe1Np7B64ubcluWiPlcy0/MXUXGxiVK2s2hITXNH1+vPzvI0opcxfifWFh 5gE0RhIP8NR2CMyKAkMzznHShkwimjrHffS9j+yk309knYP0+Msaekzz8KyiEZt4/vob3N 7jEUwLGkRbef20Gmvx0ARCeTKQWFtTePXBfUHA8wi5VPLBxlLLmb2LrVNRbAkw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1627890896; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pzdTWPR7SwY/QcCmDwnb4T27qo//xxOLGB8ad00DEr5Bvvov2JluvXcgN75NVh/eyGtgl7 yo8N4cA/bTxwschKUoYFJY0PdLX9btTIvanuSy3W3JYU0BQE13783rEhQukarNxRQiy897 T6vz8eFGgBdQSDivXD4Dxy5MwT1RZItmx7unxnSrvftO97LPvvgHQHfbgTrwlhuq965FGm 11KrZclmbGQwJD3g+Z5YptTAWYKFoTBzdXFnEbDvu3HvZb2dWm7qE5GkgETF2UxLKKd2UR 1Dmqy+HQu1KXYX20f9QgBSdl1EnB1Uuv76TBuBn0H4sej/z4Z8lzTI6oDoOnZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=nnJE25Ue; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.32 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=yandex.com header.s=mail header.b=nnJE25Ue; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=yandex.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E1A2B1F691 X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: hmHbmvbmc8Ts Hello Timothy, >>>>> Timothy writes: > Hi Everyone, Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This > Month In Org) I've just published the July post. I've decided to > focus entirely on citations this time :) > Should this be of interest, here it is: > https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html Nice work. For me, however, I'm still at a loss, although I confess I've not kept up to-date with the org citation developments. 1. I don't understand the relation between the new cite syntax and the old org-mode [[ bib:key ]]. Perhaps there isn't one. 2. How is an =org-link-abbrev-alist= related to a global and/or local #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my =org-link-abbrev-alist= the org-export (to pdf) still does not find a different local bibliography file. (I have org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.) I think I need to read the manual! Anyway, thanks to everyone for this new org citation. Best wishes, Colin.