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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638532560; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=9qOnSl7MXqzYjPCE9+DsKTeD5qKut+H5O/oZ5XlmBPo=; b=bo/rDx+LQQb6i4iDITcVl9XKmAhWBvtAKiZbDsD1J4bqzhWX+T8GohnlNaHFRknhA6wmrH JkHGFgc+JQbzYbWP0R4rdS3E5OhWCNNZQ8QXoChiR9AZW+siJne9sjRxIsVar4eJE79YsM PggEqG7LCF+PMCLaO0HpBz2VBi1Toc0+694N7mhI4d9/UL+9+WEnmdlbuqmPOecLVt9s79 BI0GvuIRELBvPqw98ZYRZkjHwVfsCPIIA2zTPCknkKSOfKrXZmncHF2Cqve8UA4ix13jv9 soS9og5fWME84XlVBwE/svmHemNUN/gbb4WV3L+E7LYZBazsBHcXcNLuqUjFYw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638532560; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=lg58N7T+tMty5oDTXOA2rrScAiYs4tgxwTa/9/K4YiK0cMC9lAZJCPEemw9LV+p1aAaZVn jT5IuJOxhcPI4M3FAMLJhgX735lIQkiN6xe/h/254LpJSxoWnocZoSMPNyOHb+u/RA6MOn VKpD2XgHdXikiW3dy/Bwb5fJUucW2y+U45Vudnc8zo+hbvMxFpMpcaFmAx0sYI0wOSqPOz brN8SIT/8Q5tOtR9vahdHqieMBdyPtjBVu0i02C6/qPvckE7eYHyrd7Et9ipntTSBmf4wA iSDr5H6Fx2WHHAeigpUYaETcRfflY0vr8vFFV2EE8qsEqShfwQFdux23jcJkbA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=bIaKCeiX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.32 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=web.de header.s=dbaedf251592 header.b=bIaKCeiX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=web.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D17D81BE1 X-Spam-Score: -6.32 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: KgIjpGAW+5uN --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jan Ulrich Hasecke writes: > There are some more issues. Startup time of my emacs is more than 30 > seconds even after optimizing something with esup. I have 10.000+ files > in my org-roam and fear that I hit some limitation either of org-roam or > my hardware. I use use-package with the :defer option for everything that I don=E2=80=99t always need at startup. That gives me sub-second startup, which is OK, and at first idle it adds more packages. The other main focus I have there nowadays is to stay close to vanilla Emacs: Only change what I really need different. The main advantage of that is that when I need an editor that is there *at once*, I just use emacs -Q That avoids all customizations, even those from the distribution, and it is roughly instant (if you need more, then add -nw to open it purely in the terminal). 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