From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id EP5+J11Q7WLSTgAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2022 19:16:13 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id WC51J11Q7WKYswAAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2022 19:16:13 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32A2523742 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2022 19:16:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oK0vj-0001C9-Qh for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:16:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oK0u8-000183-Ev for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:14:32 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:51349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oK0u6-0001fT-EY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:14:32 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6481240101 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2022 19:14:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1659719663; bh=uCFndRbHe4Jhc29UqyF9u0cgx6WnoQHiTUZK+QV4Tlo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=ZW5eZ/C/ng1IBM0lvryPCI5r4+Z/rF7uqtqVa2yI2ts2g5f5xPvqDVy068Vlw/dH7 Pt+xDExv4RqlUTYaBzRhZDkm2ydV8NPL6cTuI6ukWMPQegYbA/pupVBrlyvUcwufHb GnWNMWhqNNCm4tTcbJbar7wXobWAKQ7BRaklSUcHr01H45nwQH+gIbYI8/cnKS9O29 TfdXGL5lag5+YxXWu/oIkXVoyAz8wTIMq9Zgzs70vOe7ox0lR278L6XmINeApUCe31 cJN0BPEnXeBknH2UR1arkCe719DMxCV0KG5puiASE1+jklFLFPVlmVa9R/VYDRVTI1 r+NWmMvuyPXtg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Lzsdq0tvYz6tnQ; Fri, 5 Aug 2022 19:14:22 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Max Nikulin Cc: orgmode Subject: Re: [PATCH] ox-latex.el: `org-latex-language-alist' improved References: <87mtcq14gt.fsf@posteo.net> <871qtw2ukr.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2022 17:14:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 4 Aug 2022 19:16:52 +0700") Message-ID: <877d3mehoz.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1659719773; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=HKlexjztKVRg1Fc/JvjfHN6IdiymVZpGVK9aI+kI5gk=; b=bExJUN/TBe/DN8gR8oYdeOp85NMlU7WjS/qXY1ri/eC+833N0U1MfLz/W4D+TgZ8/aqS6m 7lhaYacfoPkAMFsq1MIZltkCCRsqxrsn6ZVWsT5DmuHjvgW9ec6CZbqjQM1wphvLA0BG8Q UAPCXP8GuWGCKL9c5I/PF7/gdDeraZfxp+zqmKKAW3GWiIru2Hmgzd8qzk2t/2S5TQZv+O rMfUHTbmSSm9prZHh0kX2Auj2+al+Rc6jSqN2jwli8tBCRiV0YLJd8gVAE9DLtu2WO/QIh FgV5ymrFWu+8HMgmHPstdfSqcRfdE5SuGFEbkt5ne19/VPxoQVRhtBtBA7djJQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1659719773; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kYutrp22bCwUIND97dD/06/DPGagvCivbAPrfdsV5BGX+SLedvwdnHNxFIb0vqzSYbxep8 4IQv2CS8F3pKehtRTQftLC1yzXuBXOqZ4nwvbwK9ifsNhjtveypahrCHj6pG2q4cmp9xt8 KNPHMvsZZfBTQlOSShQbOypg0ntFZ/FZUMyoJdDJUAbxGP3AElG78LOUI2+xLOfpG/YUAw Y3XqGVmkA9zxs4iQlKPaa6v5GpNcXjjBkpTXBu4BPF1Ni70EfuvDHzARRuI02rtfjIbhLk rPz5ViF+DEL5lriIQ3jXdESHhcFonEg56LqiFzQ8FwQF+hjC1TCMJTgL8KQ91A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b="ZW5eZ/C/"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.90 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b="ZW5eZ/C/"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 32A2523742 X-Spam-Score: -3.90 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: GhN+FY3LFB+c Max Nikulin writes: > Likely never variant is ideal. Maybe language should be always in > :babel and :babel-ini-only should be boolean. I am not sure though > that it will not make code more complex in other places, so feel free > to ignore this comment. What you say makes a lot of sense. Really the only reason why I avoided doing something like that was rather the economy, so I didn't have to put things like (two properties instead of one): :babel xx :babel-ini-only t etc. It is also expected that babel-ini-only is a 'temporary' property. At least I would like it to be so. According to the Babel documentation: > Babel is moving gradually from the old and fuzzy concept of language > to the more modern of locale. Which is precisely what the new ini files are meant for. Now these files can only be loaded via \babelprovide or by adding provide=* (and some other variants) to the babel arguments (this last option is not supported by my patch, for pdfLaTeX compatibility, where ini files don't work. I imagine that when that transition is complete, there will be a more inclusive and universal interface in babel. Best regards, Juan Manuel