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I hope that (3) is not your experience with Org ML. If it is, I'd rather say "developers understand questions". At least from my perspective. Your approach is rather unusual for me, making it difficult to follow even after detailed explanations. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at