From: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>
To: John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
Cc: Memnon Anon <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: possible bug: TAB after elipsis
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:29:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87634hibsy.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a037f7361003271302x221c630cydf9475172d03b0a3@mail.gmail.com> (John Hendy's message of "Sat\, 27 Mar 2010 14\:02\:55 -0600")
John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
> Very cool and good point about unfolding. I've basically been doing the same things.
>
> Thanks for the speed keys link, especially. I've just got to sit down and read the whole manual some weekend... there's so much and since I am usually searching under 'problem-based' motivation, there's
> so many helpful things I might never find that way!
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Memnon Anon <gegendosenfleisch@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > This awesome. If this equivalent existed for M-a/e and M-f/b, I would
> > be very happy with the result. Seem reasonable -- when on a folded
> > headline, I just can't think of a reason someone would want to
> > interact with the headline after the ellipsis. It even, as someone
> > else mentioned, can ge one into trouble -- press the wrong key or
> > delete after it and you're removing text you can't even see... but are
> > able to interact with!
>
> Well, after all, its just "Plain Text" you are editing.
> Whenever there is an Elipsis, there is a convenient "hack" in the
> display hiding what you don't want to see, but it is never the less a
> hack. So I got into the habbit that, whenever I edit a line that
> contains "...", I unfold it first; whenever it is folded, I only
> a ) view it or
> b) navigate with the org commands like the speed keys
> (http://orgmode.org/manual/Speed-keys.html) or
> c) use the org structure editing command
> (http://orgmode.org/manual/Structure-editing.html).
>
> For extensive editing with emacs board tools, there is always
> "M-x show-all".
>
> So, I agree, whenever there are ellipsis, editing "it ... can
> get one into trouble". So I just don't ;).
>
> hth
> Memnon
Sorry about the premature post - send key malfunction :)
One other thing I've done for dealing with folded text is use my binding
for F9-v which toggles visibility mode on and off. This unfolds
_everything_ and makes it possible to see what you are changing (usually
because I accidentally edited something in a folded region and want to
see exactly what I'm undoing to fix it)
(global-set-key (kbd "<f9> v") 'visible-mode)
HTH,
Bernt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-27 23:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-24 18:04 possible bug: TAB after elipsis Anthony Lander
2010-03-26 5:50 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
2010-03-26 6:32 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-03-26 9:25 ` Ben Finney
2010-03-26 9:38 ` peter.frings
2010-03-26 17:23 ` John Hendy
2010-03-27 16:35 ` Anthony Lander
2010-03-27 19:02 ` Memnon Anon
2010-03-27 19:21 ` John Hendy
2010-03-27 19:53 ` Memnon Anon
2010-03-27 20:02 ` John Hendy
2010-03-27 23:26 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-03-27 23:29 ` Bernt Hansen [this message]
2010-03-28 11:45 ` Alan E. Davis
2010-03-28 11:58 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-03-28 13:25 ` Alan E. Davis
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