From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: bug with respect to org-read-date-prefer-future Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:48:39 -0400 Message-ID: <8762x1ujjc.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <87eic0zuzj.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <8739sgy0de.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87vd5cpiz1.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y6a8wjkd.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <0D933E4B-5285-4BC8-842A-739E8F97DBB7@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50674 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7RjS-0005va-BY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:48:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7RjR-0002VA-24 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:48:54 -0400 Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.72]:53338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7RjR-0002UQ-0C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:48:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0D933E4B-5285-4BC8-842A-739E8F97DBB7@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:33:50 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Carsten Dominik , org-mode mailing list Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi, > > On Oct 8, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > >> Eric S Fraga writes: >> >>> On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:01:49 -0400, Bernt Hansen >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Eric S Fraga writes: >>>> >>>>> Recently, but I cannot say for how long, I have found that dates >>>>> entered, for instance using "j" in the standard agenda view, no >>>>> longer >>>>> choose a time/day in the future but seem to default to the current >>>>> year. For instance, today, typing "j 2 feb RET" (with a real space >>>>> between 2 and feb) jumps me to 2010 February 2, not 2011. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Eric, >>>> >>>> This was recently changed in commit >>>> 03b178d (Do not prefer future when jumping to a date in the >>>> agenda, 2010-09-21) >>>> by Carsten after an offline discussion with me. >>>> >>>> The behaviour changed for the 'j' command in the agenda only but >>>> not for >>>> other date prompts. >>> >>> Ah, okay, so I am not totally losing it... ;-) >>> >>>> The justification for this was at the start of a new month you >>>> need to >>>> enter the year to go back to a date a week or two ago in the agenda >>>> which seemed inconvenient. >>>> >>>> Carsten noticed that I had set org-read-date-prefer-future to nil in >>>> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html and questioned why that was >>>> necessary. After a short discussion he decided to change the >>>> default >>>> behaviour for the agenda j command only. >>>> >>>> Please comment on whether this change is good or bad. The docstring >>>> should be more clear about this change if we decide to keep it. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Bernt >>> >>> Well, I must say that I prefer the old way as it is more likely (on a >>> simple probabilistic view considering the full twelve months of the >>> year) that I am going to want a future date if I refer to a month >>> before the current one. I can understand your justification for >>> earlier in a month but I typically simply use, say, -7 or -10 then >>> (as >>> I use +7 or +10 say for days in the future). So, I guess my view is >>> that the change is more bad than good... At the very least, I would >>> like this to be configurable, if that is at all possible? If not, I >>> am sure I can adjust! >>> >>> By the way, I guess I could see an argument for a date alone being >>> for >>> the current month, whether future or past, much as time can be >>> considered already to be for the current day, whether future or past, >>> if the variable is configured as I have it (time), but even then we >>> should have a configurable variable? >>> >>> Regardless, the docs definitely have to change! >> >> Personally I'm okay with reverting this commit if it is problematic. >> I'll leave the final decision on that up to Carsten. > > There is now a new option, org-agenda-jump-prefer-future. > The default is to recycle the setting of org-read-date-prefer-future, > but you can set your own specific preference as well. Thanks! Regards, Bernt