From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Memnon Anon Subject: Re: suggestion for FAQ: clarifying how to upgrade org Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <87627o1ivv.fsf@mean.albasani.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAQpf-00071z-7y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:36:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAQpd-0000Op-OG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:36:43 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:32898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAQpd-0000Oc-Dm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:36:41 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TAQpe-00084e-GF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:36:42 +0200 Received: from e178235075.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.235.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:36:42 +0200 Received: from gegendosenfleisch by e178235075.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:36:42 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi rpjd, "Robert P. J. Day" writes: > that seems to work fine. if that's an acceptable way to upgrade > org, that should probably be mentioned in the FAQ -- that you might > just be able to do a standard, distro-specific install of whatever > represents the org-mode package and emacs will pick it up > automatically. > > just an observation. That faq is exported from an org file on worg. Sure, distro specific packages are a viable way to upgrade your org: Would you like to add it? If you don't know git, this is the relevant section: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ** My Emacs ships with an older version Org-mode! How do I upgrade? :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: updating-org :END: #+index: Upgrade Org-mode develops quickly, which means that versions of Org-mode shipped with Emacs are more or less out-of-date. If you'd like to upgrade to the most recent version of org-mode, you have a number of options. 1. Download the [[http://orgmode.org/index.html#sec-3][most recent release]] of org-mode as zip or tarball and follow the [[http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation][installation instructions]] in the manual. 2. Clone and install the development git repository as [[#keeping-current-with-Org-mode-development][explained here]]. If you don't want to run the bleeding edge, you can still use git [[#using-stable-releases-only][to track the most recent stable releases]]. 3. Install and updated org-mode automatically through the Emacs Package Manager as [[#installing-via-elpa][explained in this FAQ]]. /Note/: Please also see [[#mixed-install][Is my Orgmode installation mixed?]] for a common issue with mixed installations. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Just insert your words and certainly someone will push it :). otoh, http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html (where you are sent to to to download org) already mentions "Alternate distributions". > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#mixed-install > > in both cases above, when i asked for "org-version", i didn't get any > "release" info in parentheses. all i saw was: > > "Org-mode version x.y.z" > > which might confuse a reader expecting to see release information. > again, just another observation. ,----[ org-faq.org - Is my Orgmode installation mixed? ] | An easy first step to | investigate this is to look at the output of =M-x org-version=. | - Good :: ~Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-448-g1737d3 @ | /path/to/org-mode/lisp/)~ | - Bad :: ~Org-mode version 6.33x (release_7.8.11.409.ga3778)~ `---- org-version got improved to show the release bit in several steps, starting with | commit e7d2e4e18694cb8c4bec5a81815bf7ef9c8078a6 | Author: Achim Gratz | Date: Mon May 7 21:21:28 2012 +0200 So, the suggestion in org-faq will only work with org versions later than May 19. org-7.8.11, which ships with emacs24, was released ... a couple of days later. But these changes obviously didn't make it into the bundled version. Lets be vague then :), what about: "An easy first step to investigate this /with a recent version/ is to look at the output of =M-x org-version=."