From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New html exporter and filters
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:07:29 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8762144v46.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130305230504.GA6181@BigDog.local> (Rick Frankel's message of "Tue, 5 Mar 2013 18:05:05 -0500")
The <div> </div> aren't really content elements but merely structuring
or styling elements.
I think there should be a clear separation between contents and how it
is wrapped. The base HTML exporter should just generate content with no
divs at all. There could be a fancy HTML exporter which does generate
divs.
I can think of "splitting" the current HTML exporter in to a base-html
backend and an fancy-html backend. Rick can derive from base-html
backend instead of fancy-html.
The current HTML exporter is one in the circle.
---------
---/ \---
-/ \-
/ \
/ Org Factory HTML \ Deck HTML
/ (adds factory divs) \ |
/ | \ |
| | +-----------+-------------+
| | | |
| V V |
\ Base HTML /
\ (no divs) /
\ /
\ /
-\ /-
---\ /---
---------
The problem here is much similar to what Torrey was saying in other
thread wrt to TOC "pseudo"-elements [1]. The Id property is not the TOC
itself but enhances (or particularizes) that specific transoding.
Nicolas,
Let me work with Rick Frankel on this. I will take over this thread.
Jambunathan K.
Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 09:16:16AM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
>> Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com> writes:
>
>> > On the other hand, it would be easier if ox-html were modified so that
>> > org-html-headline uses a variable (or callback) for the format of the
>> > wrapper (currently "<div id=\"%s...") and a callback for the div id
>> > generation. This would add flexibility for inherited backends as well
>> > as allow for more "html5ish" structures (e.g., <section> and <article>
>> > instead of generic <divs>).
>>
>> Wouldn't it be simpler to just fork `org-html-headline' in your back-end
>> in order to replace the divs with something you need?
>
> Well, `org-html-headline' does a lot and I'm trying to rewrite as
> little as possible. Actually, i already wrap `org-html-headline', so i
> could fix the :CUSTOM_ID on the way in. I think i was looking for a
> solution to both the wrapper element and id in the same place (a
> filter).
>
>> On the other hand, there are a couple of variables providing a way to
>> modify divs ids in ox-html.el. I suppose one more doesn't hurt. It may
>> be even better to collect them in a single defcustom.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> What I think is missing is a way to customize the element used for the
> wrapper, and possiblly the id/class prefixes. The simple solution
> would be to add an `org-headline-wrapper-element' customization
> (defaulting to "div"), or if allowing change to the id and class:
>
> '("div" "outline-container-%s" "outline-%d").
>
> If you were to over-engineer it,something along the lines of the way
> the latex exporter specifies the headline hierarchies for one of the
> document classes would work :}
>
> Likewise, it would make sense for the `org-html-divs' to become a list
> of '(element . class) instead of a list of just classes. e.e.g
>
> (defcustom org-html-divs '(("header" . "preamble")
> ("section" . "content")
> ("footer" . "postamble"))
>
> Rick
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-06 11:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-04 20:58 New html exporter and filters Rick Frankel
2013-03-05 8:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-05 23:05 ` Rick Frankel
2013-03-06 11:37 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-03-06 19:45 ` Jambunathan K
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