From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Should org-narrow-to-subtree be disabled by default? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:39:11 +0100 Message-ID: <8761q1cbxc.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <878uwfgmxz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwkv8689.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34241) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6qL-00031l-QF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:39:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6qB-0007z6-So for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:39:25 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]:54934) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6qB-0007yo-MY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:39:15 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq4so590188wib.1 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:39:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87mwkv8689.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:53:26 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Rasmus writes: > Bastien writes: > >> one good way to decide could be to ask people here if they ever >> accidentally narrowed the view to a subtree -- I never did. > > No. But I know the concept of narrowing, which may be unfamiliar to > some. I find narrowing super useful, especially when writing longer > documents. I checked narrow-to-defun, and it is not disabled by default, only narrow-to-region and narrow-to-page, which are both accessible in any mode. As org-narrow-to-* functions are only accessible from org-mode buffers and not that easily called by accident (I haven't seen any report like this in years), I suggest we stick to the current setup. >> Also, I tend to think Emacs is on the paranoid side here, I don't >> think newbies can hit C-x n n accidentally... > > Perhaps an easier way to narrow by accident is through > org-speed-commands-default, i.e. speedkey "s". Yes, but newbies don't use speed commands without knowing what they do, do they? -- Bastien