From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:30:16 +0100 Message-ID: <8761oruk2f.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87eh3f9pss.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <86r47fnolk.fsf@somewhere.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBlWE-00043c-4S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:31:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBlW6-0005hO-Sf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:30:58 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBlW6-0005gw-I9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:30:50 -0500 Received: from public by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WBlVz-0007l2-BA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:30:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86r47fnolk.fsf@somewhere.org> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Fri, 07 Feb 2014 12:34:15 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Sebastien Vauban Cc: public-emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ@plane.gmane.org Thanks for your feedback. "Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> - use C-c < for selecting the whole subtree, which is consistent >> with the use of `<' as a speedy command for doing the same. > > You put the finger on one important note to me: that speed commands are > "the same" as their longer counterpart. It should be good if all of > them could be obtainable by adding "C-c C-" in front of the speed > command. I think it goes in the opposite direction: if a command is bound to C-c KEY or C-c C-KEY then KEY should be used as a speed command. > With that focus in mind, I find `C-c x' not a good one (for checkboxes); > though, in that case, speed commands don't come into play. The mnemonic here is: `x' reminds me of [x] -- let's see if something better can be done. > But I find it > too different from the `C-c C-' construct used for the others? I wanted to keep it close to C-c #, and use only C-c KEY. >> Let me know how you feel about such move in general and each rebinding >> in particular. We are not forced to solve them all at once. > > Globally, it's fine! > > Last remark about `C-c <' which I find not good: > > - `<' in used for filtering categories in the agenda, Categories are (most often) attached to a subtree. When you hit the `<' speed command on this subtree then display the agenda, you don't need to filter by category with `<' since the narrowing already filters (by category) for you. That's actually one of the reason for which I propose this key. > - semantically, what `C-c @' does is a `C-x h' limited to a subtree; > maybe there could be something inspiring similar to `C-x h'? Maybe > `C-u C-x h'? The way to get the same behavior than `C-c @' is `C-c C-^ M-h'. M-h is very very handy, and probably not known enough! -- Bastien