emacs-orgmode@gnu.org archives
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch][ox-html] Stylistic changes
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 20:46:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761nbs31n.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0d5c03b1f1e36a4250cbd11d467d3efe@mail.rickster.com

Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com> writes:

> On 2014-03-17 23:36, Rasmus wrote:
> When you refer above to "utf-8 entities", do you mean the named html
> entities (e.g., &lt;) or the actual utf-8 encoded characters?

The latter.  Do M-x describe-char on such an character.  Emacs will
tell you the code points.  My conjecture is therefore that one could
write a script that would translate html values to these weird hex
string or codepoints.  It would create more ugly source output, but
perhaps better for XHTML.  Personally, I don't care about XHTML as I
have little intuition as to when to use. . .

> I believe the named entities are encoding independent, while including
> encoded characters in html output is fine -- although making sure the
> page is served with the correct character encoding is another issue
> entirely.

Not what I meant.  I'm only addressing your concern about
&HUMAN-READABLE-NAME; vs %HEX-VALUE;.

> As to using a more extensive set of named entities, as i said above,
> the problem is that the xhtml flavors don't support them, and I don't
> see any advantage in making the exporter handle character encoding
> differently based on ouput doctype.

Definitely not.  Why I ask if there's a point in changing nice
entities to ugly entities for the sake of not getting them in
XHTML-encoded documents.

> As Nicolas would point out, you can always use a filter to map all the
> entities in the output.

With ox-latex.el we for instance don't include entities that are not
supported by the default package alist.  A similar concern could be at
play here.

–Rasmus

-- 
El Rey ha muerto. ¡Larga vida al Rey!

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-18 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-16  0:33 [patch][ox-html] Stylistic changes Rasmus
2014-03-16  9:59 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-03-16 13:06   ` Rasmus
2014-03-17  2:17   ` Bastien
2014-03-17 17:01     ` Rick Frankel
2014-03-17 22:19       ` Rasmus
2014-03-18  0:35         ` Rick Frankel
     [not found]           ` <874n2w2n62.fsf@gmx.us>
2014-03-18 13:49             ` Rick Frankel
2014-03-18 19:46               ` Rasmus [this message]
2014-03-19 14:00                 ` Rick Frankel

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.orgmode.org/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=8761nbs31n.fsf@gmx.us \
    --to=rasmus@gmx.us \
    --cc=emacs-orgmode@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).