From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset Subject: bibliographystyle in scimax Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2018 09:22:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87606d36x0.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-=-=" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2R1-0001lz-JB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:22:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2Qx-0006tL-Gl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:22:27 -0500 Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]:45426) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1es2Qx-0006su-50 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:22:23 -0500 Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p104so12279189wrc.12 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2018 00:22:23 -0800 (PST) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: John Kitchin Cc: Eric Fraga , emacs-orgmode list --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear John, I am happy to tell you that your scimax [[https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax ]] is a wonderful tool for emacs, for org-mode and for exporting in LaTeX with references. I advice strongly its use.=20 I am using Gnus and not mu4e to write emails and it works well now thanks of the help of Eric Fraga.=20 This email is just about a detail. I guess it would be possible in theory to get the bibliography style that I want in email as well as in any other exported document, but it is not the case for the html export and therefore not for html email in Gnus. It is too bad, because apalike for example is a good option that avoids Jan von Plato's reproach [[#vonplato2017][vonplato2017]]:=20 #+BEGIN_QUOTE A great disservice is being done to scholarship by the reference system prevalent today that has running numbers, usually in square brackets, for the items in the references. The defects of this system are twofold. First, it is enormously disturbing for the reader to be constantly checking the list of references to see what article or book is being referred to. The reader=E2=80=99s memory is burdened with information that has no meaning elsewhere. Second, the awareness of who did what and when is eroded little by little. If we read G=C3=B6del (1931) or Gentzen (1936), we know what that is, contrary to a plain [104] and [90], say, and similarly with hundreds of other works. Such couplings of names and years give us a timeline that is indispensable for an awareness of the development of logic or any other part of science. The thoughtless =E2=80=9Cbibtex=E2=80=9D square bracket numbering system of references is d= estroying such awareness and should therefore be universally abandoned. It has just one, totally inessential advantage: that it saves some space. In a standard article, that may be a few lines, and in a book, a page or two. #+END_QUOTE So, do you think that it is possible to adopt the apalike bibliography style in html document also?=20 Best wishes,=20 Jo.=20 * Bibliography ** Jan von Plato - {The Great Formal Machinery Works: Theories of Deduction= and Computation at the Origins of the Digital Age} :PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: vonplato2017 :=3DTYPE=3D: book :=3DKEY=3D: vonplato2017 :TITLE: {{The Great Formal Machinery Works: Theories of Deduction and Co= mputation at the Origins of the Digital Age}} :AUTHOR: {Jan von Plato} :PUBLISHER: {Princeton University Press} :ISBN: {0691174172,9780691174174} :YEAR: {2017} :ADDRESS: {Princeton} :SERIES: {} :EDITION: {} :VOLUME: {} :URL: {http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=3D78f2ef1addf9a3993f5601= b9b4d6b5ba} :END: --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear John,

I am happy to tell you that your scimax
https://github.com/jkitch= in/scimax is a wonderful tool for emacs, for
org-mode and for exporting in LaTeX with references. I advice strongly
its use.

I am using Gnus and not mu4e to write emails and it works well now
thanks of the help of Eric Fraga.

This email is just about a detail. I guess it would be possible in
theory to get the bibliography style that I want in email as well as
in any other exported document, but it is not the case for the html
export and therefore not for html email in Gnus. It is too bad,
because apalike for example is a good option that avoids Jan von
Plato’s reproach vonplato2017:

A great disservice is being done to scholarship by the reference system
prevalent today that has running numbers, usually in square brackets,
for the items in the references. The defects of this system are twofold. First, it is enormously disturbing for the reader to be constantly
checking the list of references to see what article or book is being
referred to. The reader=E2=80=99s memory is burdened with information that<= br /> has no meaning elsewhere. Second, the awareness of who did what
and when is eroded little by little. If we read G=C3=B6del (1931) or Gentze= n
(1936), we know what that is, contrary to a plain [104] and [90], say,
and similarly with hundreds of other works. Such couplings of names
and years give us a timeline that is indispensable for an awareness of
the development of logic or any other part of science. The thoughtless
=E2=80=9Cbibtex=E2=80=9D square bracket numbering system of references is d= estroying
such awareness and should therefore be universally abandoned. It has
just one, totally inessential advantage: that it saves some space. In a
standard article, that may be a few lines, and in a book, a page or two.

So, do you think that it is possible to adopt the apalike bibliography style in html document also?

Best wishes,

Jo.

Bibliography

  • [vonplato2017] Jan= von Plato, The Great Formal Machinery Works: Theories of Deduction and Com= putation at the Origins of the Digital Age, Princeton University Press (201= 7).

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