From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nicolas Goaziou Subject: Re: Completely hide the :PROPERTIES: drawer in org-mode. Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 15:32:28 +0100 Message-ID: <875ztnu5c3.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> References: <87lg2l4d2g.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gtvaf-0007sb-8y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:32:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gtvad-0001T7-La for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:32:44 -0500 Received: from relay10.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.230]:50623) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gtvac-0001Fr-3p for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:32:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Micha=C3=ABl?= Cadilhac"'s message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:17:13 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: =?utf-8?Q?Micha=C3=ABl?= Cadilhac Cc: Keith David Bershatsky , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hello, Micha=C3=ABl Cadilhac writes: > Agreed, hiding properties entirely seems overkill and quite limited in > use cases. However, I think this stems from a more general need to > hide properties that are irrelevant to the user=E2=80=94for instance, UIDs > created by ox-icalendar, or other internal properties. As a user, I > see no need whatsoever to see=E2=80=94let alone edit=E2=80=94such a prope= rty, and feel > that it clutters the display. Assuming that properties are edited > using the suitable commands, no clash would be created by having a set > P of properties such that drawers with only P-properties would be > hidden. What do you think? Since properties drawers are almost exclusively folded, I don't think incriminated properties clutter display. Besides, I don't think any property is irrelevant to every user. How would we know? More generally, I feel uneasy about completely hiding stuff. Org format is not meant to be opaque. I think the current situation is fine, as far as /core/ Org is concerned. Of course, users are free to extend it to their own needs. Regards, --=20 Nicolas Goaziou