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I think it should be in Version 9.4. >> >> Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though >> 0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for org-table-blank-field, 2021-04-28) >> is from the 9.5 release not 9.4. >> >> However, 9.5 is out, and my understanding is that released NEWS sections >> should not be substantially modified in most cases >> (). I'll leave it to >> the author of the original change and Bastien to decide if they want to >> make an exception in this case. > > I also agree it should have had a NEWS entry (something I never > remember), but don't have much of an opinion on whether that entry gets > added after the fact or not! I agree an entry should have been added in the 9.5 news file. However, I'm not sure it is a good idea to add one now given that 9.5 has been released. The problem with adding one now is that it means 9.5 will have 2 different news files. This could cause confusion as some people will have a news file which includes the details and some will not. If people are willing to accept that possible bit of confusion, I would add the entry, otherwise, leave it and add it to the 9.6 news file (so that at least the change was documented/tracked, albeit after the fact.