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* org-table-blank-field key binding removal
@ 2021-10-06  2:49 Alan Wehmann
  2021-10-06  3:22 ` Kyle Meyer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alan Wehmann @ 2021-10-06  2:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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On 2/5/21 in this email list Carsten Dominik suggested removing the key binding C-c <SPC> for "org-table-blank-field".  That got implemented for Org-9.5, but the Info file didn't get changed, so it still says:

‘C-c <SPC>’ (‘org-table-blank-field’)
     Blank the field at point.

in node (org) Built-in Table Editor

In my own usage of tables I use this key binding a lot, so I am going to figure how to restore it.

I don't subscribe to this list, because it's too overwhelming.

Alan Wehmann
alan.wehmann@gmail.com


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-06  2:49 org-table-blank-field key binding removal Alan Wehmann
@ 2021-10-06  3:22 ` Kyle Meyer
  2021-10-13 19:34   ` Michael Brand
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-06  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Wehmann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On 10/05/21 21:49:22 -0500, Alan Wehmann wrote:
> On 2/5/21 in this email list Carsten Dominik suggested removing the
> key binding C-c <SPC> for "org-table-blank-field".  That got
> implemented for Org-9.5, but the Info file didn't get changed, so it
> still says:
>
> ‘C-c <SPC>’ (‘org-table-blank-field’)
>      Blank the field at point.
>
> in node (org) Built-in Table Editor

Thank you for catching that.  I've updated the manual in 6874af872.

> In my own usage of tables I use this key binding a lot, so I am going
> to figure how to restore it.

Sorry about that.  You can restore it on your end by putting something
like this in your config:

  (define-key org-mode-map (kbd "C-c SPC") #'org-table-blank-field)


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-06  3:22 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-13 19:34   ` Michael Brand
  2021-10-14  1:35     ` Kyle Meyer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Brand @ 2021-10-13 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Hi all

The change is not announced in ORG-NEWS. I think it should be in Version 9.4.

Michael


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-13 19:34   ` Michael Brand
@ 2021-10-14  1:35     ` Kyle Meyer
  2021-10-14  2:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2021-10-14  7:21       ` Bastien Guerry
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-14  1:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Brand; +Cc: Bastien Guerry, Eric Abrahamsen, Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Michael Brand writes:

> The change is not announced in ORG-NEWS. I think it should be in Version 9.4.

Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though
0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for org-table-blank-field, 2021-04-28)
is from the 9.5 release not 9.4.

However, 9.5 is out, and my understanding is that released NEWS sections
should not be substantially modified in most cases
(<https://list.orgmode.org/87o8ez4sch.fsf@bzg.fr>).  I'll leave it to
the author of the original change and Bastien to decide if they want to
make an exception in this case.


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  1:35     ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-14  2:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2021-10-14  2:24         ` Tim Cross
  2021-10-14  7:20         ` Bastien Guerry
  2021-10-14  7:21       ` Bastien Guerry
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Abrahamsen @ 2021-10-14  2:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: Bastien Guerry, Michael Brand, Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> Michael Brand writes:
>
>> The change is not announced in ORG-NEWS. I think it should be in Version 9.4.
>
> Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though
> 0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for org-table-blank-field, 2021-04-28)
> is from the 9.5 release not 9.4.
>
> However, 9.5 is out, and my understanding is that released NEWS sections
> should not be substantially modified in most cases
> (<https://list.orgmode.org/87o8ez4sch.fsf@bzg.fr>).  I'll leave it to
> the author of the original change and Bastien to decide if they want to
> make an exception in this case.

I also agree it should have had a NEWS entry (something I never
remember), but don't have much of an opinion on whether that entry gets
added after the fact or not!


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  2:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2021-10-14  2:24         ` Tim Cross
  2021-10-14  5:06           ` Michael Brand
  2021-10-14  7:20         ` Bastien Guerry
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Tim Cross @ 2021-10-14  2:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
>
>> Michael Brand writes:
>>
>>> The change is not announced in ORG-NEWS. I think it should be in Version 9.4.
>>
>> Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though
>> 0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for org-table-blank-field, 2021-04-28)
>> is from the 9.5 release not 9.4.
>>
>> However, 9.5 is out, and my understanding is that released NEWS sections
>> should not be substantially modified in most cases
>> (<https://list.orgmode.org/87o8ez4sch.fsf@bzg.fr>).  I'll leave it to
>> the author of the original change and Bastien to decide if they want to
>> make an exception in this case.
>
> I also agree it should have had a NEWS entry (something I never
> remember), but don't have much of an opinion on whether that entry gets
> added after the fact or not!

I agree an entry should have been added in the 9.5 news file. However,
I'm not sure it is a good idea to add one now given that 9.5 has been
released.

The problem with adding one now is that it means 9.5 will have 2
different news files. This could cause confusion as some people will
have a news file which includes the details and some will not. If people
are willing to accept that possible bit of confusion, I would add the
entry, otherwise, leave it and add it to the 9.6 news file (so that at
least the change was documented/tracked, albeit after the fact.


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  2:24         ` Tim Cross
@ 2021-10-14  5:06           ` Michael Brand
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Brand @ 2021-10-14  5:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tim Cross; +Cc: Org Mode

Hi all

Then Version 9.6 (or forget) seems right to me.

Michael


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  2:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
  2021-10-14  2:24         ` Tim Cross
@ 2021-10-14  7:20         ` Bastien Guerry
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bastien Guerry @ 2021-10-14  7:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Abrahamsen; +Cc: Kyle Meyer, Org Mode, Michael Brand, Alan Wehmann

Hi Eric,

Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:

> I also agree it should have had a NEWS entry (something I never
> remember)

I added a note about this on
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html 

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  1:35     ` Kyle Meyer
  2021-10-14  2:10       ` Eric Abrahamsen
@ 2021-10-14  7:21       ` Bastien Guerry
  2021-10-16 17:57         ` Kyle Meyer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bastien Guerry @ 2021-10-14  7:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: Eric Abrahamsen, Michael Brand, Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Hi Kyle,

thanks for the heads up!

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> Right, I agree this change should have come with a NEWS entry, though
> 0c4e844c8 (Remove default binding for org-table-blank-field, 2021-04-28)
> is from the 9.5 release not 9.4.
>
> However, 9.5 is out, and my understanding is that released NEWS sections
> should not be substantially modified in most cases
> (<https://list.orgmode.org/87o8ez4sch.fsf@bzg.fr>).  I'll leave it to
> the author of the original change and Bastien to decide if they want to
> make an exception in this case.

I suggest we add a news entry in etc/ORG-NEWS in the bugfix branch for
the change to be advertized for 9.5.x users.

Can anyone do that?

-- 
 Bastien


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-14  7:21       ` Bastien Guerry
@ 2021-10-16 17:57         ` Kyle Meyer
  2021-10-18  5:07           ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2021-10-16 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien Guerry; +Cc: Eric Abrahamsen, Michael Brand, Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Bastien Guerry writes:

> I suggest we add a news entry in etc/ORG-NEWS in the bugfix branch for
> the change to be advertized for 9.5.x users.
>
> Can anyone do that?

Done in 9bc3a2b98.


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* Re: org-table-blank-field key binding removal
  2021-10-16 17:57         ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2021-10-18  5:07           ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2021-10-18  5:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: Eric Abrahamsen, Michael Brand, Org Mode, Alan Wehmann

Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:

> Done in 9bc3a2b98.

Thanks a lot,

-- 
 Bastien


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