From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8FuMJ34pN2Je4gAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:17:50 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id YDvRJH4pN2KWUwAA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:17:50 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2129E39444 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:17:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40910 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nVvRN-0007rO-Bs for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:17:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nVvQk-0007qQ-IL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:17:10 -0400 Received: from [2001:4b98:dc4:8::227] (port=36383 helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nVvQh-0007LG-G0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:17:10 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: admin@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E5E420003; Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:17:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Nicolas Goaziou To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax) References: <87wo66t8i7.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2qlgq33.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87d07wkbkz.fsf@gmail.com> <87czihdiyy.fsf@localhost> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:17:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czihdiyy.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Sun, 20 Mar 2022 18:19:33 +0800") Message-ID: <875yo8u5kj.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2001:4b98:dc4:8::227 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::227; envelope-from=mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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It should be added to > Org core. > > Also, if anyone agrees with my arguments below, do not stay silent and > drop a "+1" email below. Otherwise, this whole thing will be stalled. > There is no point discussing technical aspects, if there is no > interest. I think there should be a direct mapping between Customize interface and values. Adding this macro as a band-aid to simply configuration is not, IMO, a solution. If capture templates values are too complicated, what about simplifying them, and possibly use this macro as a temporary solution to help transition? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou