From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id iFBKLTEBbGKK9gAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:16:01 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id YGYILDEBbGLXaAAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:16:01 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36E36FF70 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:16:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48870 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkSLg-0002hL-4o for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:16:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkSAN-0007uE-8T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:04:19 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:50339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nkSAI-0003Ih-S9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:04:18 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAE7624010A for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:03:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1651244635; bh=VGP2PNBdX3VAkmLPQIIIFuHiqp5uvHla7bS8uqBroV0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=WNCTiBv+LYEjVSHEUd3ysURoZGwsGeKzjfh6wFDiL3tcsnfWdZsXVl/RnsKsTzAxC yOdwFJ7wG4CLLKjxQnUaMmDbEqZYK2egCbiiSBGzidmy/Fgm1BeWYaco0xwZVg7rGC P++F07NTpm7okCBIG15i1CEoYP5G4i00ynulUjmicawgjC8Slf7sAMGJ041GqRfGwk oyg8w+ANyAc9BfDNxYT591SYsGgnY2yzY07qCbC2jbA+zrIK1o7ZKj2OwF26NTJM1t Kq1Tqx8UEPSV+fq/R9WoVOW+iOOAjp8T5Zdx22OW3+SqwVubQAnJrkMZUB2qExzCP9 ysbY+0AMpHQrg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4KqbNV6hHLz6tnJ for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2022 17:03:54 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: orgmode Subject: Org as a workspace (an impromptu reflection) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:03:55 +0000 Message-ID: <875yms7wys.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1651245361; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=VGP2PNBdX3VAkmLPQIIIFuHiqp5uvHla7bS8uqBroV0=; b=mDhtQ1vmvOVB4EmYPF4c14d4HUyORMIuUJIp1f5GLS71uf7giITWh+8vmXU5LoPoPATQdH UkXz9tY2/eHeMm9g6wUCV91HWUimgezxeeCBCa99ln/cMxTxF7XL4/e1XTRJAEkp0eV0sp 9qXc4DHI6Oy67U7RyQnyRSiSLtVWB/ZLRv19FkkP+47mfwakkOE23ZNoutqBZ0IAYtF8T0 kDrcW0HRDjDU9I8iwDoBX+7k7wd1bNCkzkQl2Rt72NqEj0rBcL/hwzMr823Iqig/7m41mr cFlrOEs9YGleDDPH20FOUq6lnmZ3fTrEJNSDEp0cLwWGN8bLMiPspKIT0PgISA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1651245361; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=B9qhUeO8xPrZXcusUIFIO7+cwXghSNwVasmaitDaLrZAtm+vCff7LBIMwoiFzF8auPLmnl E/vyEoEUhaj0Nzq6H5mTmW2ou7Z2gDwxCFITZ/qpZFNQpFtZ2ykPwbci7IrehUnDLQnN1H W661iJ2mWOD7rNUgWVL7rOX4IRk5s7+lKm4AbYsDbhjz19nWVRRjGHTxii4qDbi/6H4KTg RgJEIriPkoxkx55o75vhmmnSjnyo33YbIeOSzrL0J4wxyitYj3dTAqKM4J9zZhhoJR85Ru 7uJdUjzFPOBevZnV7IZv5PY6TsLDBMEtMqB8lKcy2NHxmtOIS8slz72ycNpOBQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=WNCTiBv+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.30 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=WNCTiBv+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 36E36FF70 X-Spam-Score: -6.30 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 8sAO0ZoHPzhc Hi all, Since I use Org Mode I have been noticing a gradual change in the way I work with a computer (as a simple user). It is not something consciously sought, but I have to say that I see it as a positive evolution. I've always been used to (or rather resigned to) the typical Unix directory/file scheme: everything must be a file and everything must be stored in a directory. When one has many and varied interests and tasks, and manages a wide variety of files and folders, it is certainly hard to maintain order and 'digital hygiene' within that scheme. Before using Gnu Emacs as a shell and as a desktop environment, I used KDE and Gnome for quite a while. The indexers and file search tools in these environments (especially the GnomeShell one, tracker) were somewhat helpful in keeping things tidy and close at hand. But, at the end of the day, the directory/file scheme was always present. With Org something curious has happened. I've gotten used to working around nodes (regardless of what documents those nodes are in), rather than around folders or files. Little by little, a kind of virtual world of ideas, objects, etc., all intertwined with each other, is being built. What amazes me about Org is that all of this is tremendously transparent and simple. I'm not saying that the detachment of the directory/file schema is complete: directories and files are there, actually, but at least they don't show up when working. It is somewhat akin to being in a play, where there is a suspension of disbelief. Of course, there are tools that I find indispensable. Helm-org-ql, for example, is what I use to nimbly navigate that virtual world of nodes. I also make heavy and obsessive use of org-attach and org-capture (I barely use the classic 'Documents', 'Images', 'Videos', 'Music', etc. style directories, but everything is stored in folders associated with nodes). And since I've started using org-transclusion, a new dimension has been opened to that virtuality that I mentioned before. Sometimes I wonder if this isn't a working style similar to that of the old Lisp machines, a subject I find exciting but know little about, so I apologize if that statement sounds too ignorant ;-). I don't know if anyone has had a similar experience... Best regards, Juan Manuel