From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id kJHaEjsl0mMfhQEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:01:15 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id cGbvETsl0mPJUgEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:01:15 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE9BB2AFD3 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:01:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKwFB-00036O-6W; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:00:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKwF8-00035u-2f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:00:18 -0500 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pKwF5-00065g-Ta; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:00:17 -0500 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1pKwEj-0007yw-4r; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 07:59:53 +0100 Received: from 130-133-144-203.mna.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.144.203] helo=diaspore) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1pKwEi-002gVU-UI; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 07:59:53 +0100 From: "Loris Bennett" To: Cc: Org Mode Mailing List Subject: Re: Supporting non-free SQL clients in ob-sql Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?utf-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <874jsqbvfq.fsf@kraus.my> <87358an35i.fsf@localhost> <63c5b8db.170a0220.e466f.2573@mx.google.com> <87o7qxmr6y.fsf@kraus.my> <87fsc9iifs.fsf@localhost> <87y1pte7x1.fsf@localhost> <63cef162.170a0220.faa08.09ef@mx.google.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 07:59:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:25:53 -0500") Message-ID: <875yctbx1z.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 130.133.144.203 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.133.4.66; envelope-from=loris@zedat.fu-berlin.de; helo=outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674716474; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=bkUCa6ZJgbbe9liwb0gT/fDgwj/yrVRiHzr71pewLNQ=; b=kD+RJkKrTZcmtQrHvtun50mTOwjORboc2c9UsWtZsRQj85rY6kDeku5B1wR0gqc8p2AGJW FX3+M81TX6eG+PwWDHwG2rZNoFIIZkexMtnDZ0r4Om+iGw9ntzPgaGtenLpdSSrIZDS7JK qEghtPNiIJsTdup6gzlx1hwGg3miFelcg2BxfCffvpBAw9qKPPeesoDbKo89nubw/hr8U7 s3zsnAADCo8IiXw5CqCHH5uCu9DhUquit2XTjqVXIrzdeHToL+R0yf0wnFjgkAZfqEIX3/ aupwB1DJL/mffJXmNadoh7BJKta9zk0jRt6vxD2zUYP/RlS8IBTYc+8FfwPcCA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674716474; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YQwyGILM69LJEypTHu4HDizBc+H5figykMyBrAykSHUesOTTPZRZWOw2C5TEFY2W9xdvG9 AN4Zl7HmFZD0rsUgYrMaQsrNyVXq4Jqq634DTLtXvaGDhOliEvi+Wy7IY4Zyen9/lmcIV8 nY+vh5aCvDNu/JXBZR5pbFnLRFaGXlPfGJrAya3Xw4Ws6tjQay3qs5jZrXZQScLq1v8V5x E0/ixmYf32kjUXisSCOgrPO1qhTaS5lm7umFG/bMRdnozo4xha+uXdSLVmH2u+ErPhu7w5 Kgt2ko5iy3qgi0AJbbEV4XtwEID+Nn8wwpqWJOMrvQasvyA5LAuUOb0LKRO/7A== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.78 X-Spam-Score: -2.78 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CE9BB2AFD3 X-TUID: E1y62jpljssT Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > The 'support' is essentially specialised comint based interfaces tweaked > > to work with the various SQL database engine command line clients such > > as psql for Postgres and sqlplus for Oracle. This involves codes to use > > the comint buffer to send commands/regions to the SQL client and read > > back the results and run interactive 'repl' like sessions with the > > client. > > Thanks. > > Based on our general policies, it is ok to do this. It is ok for > Postgres because that is free software. It is ok for Oracle because > that is widely known. > > Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > > It is hard to define "well known". For me, oracle and mssql databases > > are well-known (just by company name), while saphana and vertica are > > not. > > I have never heard of saphana or vertica, which suggests that maybe > this is an issue. However, I don't know the database field, so I > am the wrong one to judge. I assume that 'saphana' actually refers to 'SAP HANA'[1], which is an in-memory RDMS produced by SAP, the large German software company. I think this product may well qualify as being 'well-known', at least in the field of enterprise software. Cheers, Loris Footnotes: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_HANA -- This signature is currently under constuction.